In constructing some of the timelines presented in these studies. How can some of the same dates keep propping up, time and times again?
Is this a coincidence?
I think not!
The definition of a coincidence is the randomness of a two headed coin. “Coin-cidence”, or coin-side-ence.
It’s to uncanny to think otherwise.
This is a continuance of the timelines found in Daniel
We have already went over the foundation of this study in the two Ephraim blogs.
I’ve already coined the acronym TTHT to refer to “time, times, and half a time”.
In Daniel 7:25 & 12:7 uses the phrase or idiom TTHT.
In reading the context of passages, keep in mind this talks a lot of talk about beasts and rulers. This beast arrived with the Roman Empire. The 10 horns eventually became independent European nations. More at a later time. A Beasts of an Ordeal.
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
1. Speak great word against the most High – This will be covered in A Beasts of an Ordealand is covered similarly with the triune beast; The Desolations and Defilements study. What was the great blasphemy that sit on the walls of the dome of the rock. Read that in Denying the Son study.
2. Wear out the saints of the Most High – basically overwhelmed the people of God.
3. Think to change times and laws – to bring about change in a region during a moment in time, also setting forth decrees that their beast is only to be worshiped.
4. A time and times and the dividing of time – this was conclude in the Ephraim study that this was a 2500 year period.
In the first verse of this chapter Daniel introduces a vision and a dream during the first year of Belshazzar the appointed king by Nebuchadnezzar family members. There was a progression rulers that lead up to this selection for various reasons. This king was Daniels writing on the wall moment.
Once again, the Lord is speaking to Daniel in this vision. The same Lord that was speaking to John in Revelations.
The first year of Belshazzar was 552BC and the time of Daniels vision. This point is the start of the TTHT timeline. This phrase was never used outside of the Book of Daniel and Revelations. It’s a phrase coined by the Messiah Himself. You can do a key word search to conclude this consensus of this date.
Now using the TTHT principle we can do a little figuring of this timeline. Since the principle was reviled in the book of Revelations and the cypher was in 2 Peter. There is no conversion into New Testament solar years. Jesus had this already planned out back then.
552BC from 2500 years comes to 1948.
Well now, that date keep coming up time and times again.
Israel became a new Nation. Incorporating the northern and the southern tribes.
This was the result of the slaying of the Fourth Beast.
Most bible scholars for centuries has taught that this passage was a future seven year Antichrist moment. NOT! This timeline concluded and rapped itself up in 1948.
Oh, Dear; another TTHT
What mystery will this unfold?
In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood — the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
First, lets not confuse Daniel’s Babylonian name with the previous Babylonian king.
This vision took place in the third year of King Cyrus reign.
Now I am come to make thee understand — what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
The purpose of this dream.
The same Lord reveling to Daniel about what is to take place in the latter days.
And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard — the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and swore by him that liveth forever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
In following the progressions of this passage we can see Daniel asking the Lord when all this will come to an end?
This will be for a time, times and a half a time when these things shall be accomplished.
During this period of time this beast will have accomplished scattering the power of his holy people. This should sound more like this; crushing the strength of his holy people.
When this all comes to fruition then the timeline is complete. At the time of the end.
Daniel didn’t fully understand what the conclusion was of these events because the Lord sealed it up until the completion of events has come to pass. That this will become evident once these moments of time has come to pass.
Verse 4 I have already covered in the first study of To and Fro.
This isn’t in the last days knowledge will be increased with the SyFy understanding of great technology.
What this is referring to is: in the last days the knowledge in understanding these events will take place. How so many could have gotten this so wrong is beyond me. I understood this from the get go, and lead me to find different ways of understanding what was really happening in these passages. Not what I was told my entire Christian walk.
We need to know what the context of this passage is saying and understood so that this will not confused for something else.
The following passages we have already gone over in Heaven’s Sevens.
Now taking a look at the other TTHT timeline.
We need to know what the year was for Daniel’s vision during this moment of time. Keep in mind when this vision was completed, this type of revelation wrapped up and sealed in the Old Testament. Sure there was other prophets writing. These image visions were unique to the Old Testament along with the book of Revelation and Jesus moments documented in the New Testament.
The consensus when we do a key word search online this year came up to 533BC as the year of Daniels vision and the third year of King Cyrus’s reign.
Now again, taking the TTHT principle equals a 2500 year period of time.
Take 533BC from 2500 years we get 1967.
OMG! There it is again.
Even though Daniel did’t understand the event that was going to take place at that particular time, he didn’t even understand when it was to take place.
From the first vision to Daniel’s second vision was 19 years.
I marvel how God’s timing works to corilate the time beween the two vision and the time between Israel becoming a new nation and and Jerusalem being taken from the hands of the Gentiles was a 19 year span as well.
The Lord timed it.
This concluded the Triune Beast occupation over Jerusalem. The Time of the Gentiles comes to a close.
Coincidence? I think not.
I JUST LOVE GOD’S PATTERNS IN HIS WORD
Now in reading the whole context of Daniel chapter 7 is taking me down a whole new rabbit hole regarding the 4 Beasts.
The branches of two olive trees shall become one olive tree.
1. And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
I went over these two verses previously in Denying the Son of the Father
3. And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
First, I’m going to get the timeline out of the way, We have already covered verse one and two previously. This timeline is just another way of laying out the 42 months in verse two.
The 1,230 days taking the 1948 in the other timelines comes to 688AD. And the events that took place on the Temple Mount. Again, this was covered in another study.
This is the time of the two witnesses.
After 1948 the time of the two witnesses were up, that being Isreal and the Gentile sons of God. The purpose for the time in wilderness was to spread the message or the testaments. Even through the dark ages. Purpose fulfilled. Following the end of this period has been a time of the Me First and Me Too generation. I will get into that.
What happened after 1948 would cause the deterioration of both America and Britain, Giving way to another beast flare up in both nations? By removing legislation that allowed immigration and infiltrations of the Beast anichrists movements. Islam and even Communism. Communism was more subtle.
God also has His Waves:
Here in North America, In 1906 the Azusa Street revival ignited a Pentecostal movement in the US. In 1960 carried the flame to the Catholic Church and the Hippy Movement. Charismatic meaning Grace, or literally Devine Enablement or another term was use as faith movement. The only difference beween the two movements was speaking in tongues was not a pre-requisite of the baptism of the Holy Spirit. In the 1982 Calvery Chapel movement began, in 1995 the Toronto Blessing movement sprouted from the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church in Canada.
What happened to these movements and why are they not making the impact they once did?
The Azusa Street wanted to formulate and bottle the movement and sell it. I’ve even heard that the pastor resigned because there was some that wanted to talk to the dead. The Charismatic Movement wanted to prosper itself. The Vineyard movement missed the return of Jesus, and the Toronto blessing withdrew from Vineyard.
I have heard how such movements started. From oppression from one to another. The Baptists thought the Pentecostals were demon possessed, The Pentecostals and the Baptists agreed that God couldn’t save the Catholics and the Hippies. Boom, the Catholic Charismatic Movement became official in 1967. But the lot of them believed that God can’t save a Jew. These movements have became so self centered, Started in the Spirit and ended in the flesh.
Many want to re-experience such a move of the Holy Spirit. But at what cost. To have it end up in the flesh. In the later days every time the Holy Spirit broke through our flesh, there was a particular gift that was imparted or restored. And that Gift was carried through to the next awakening or enlightenment of the gospel. So the fundamentals of the previous awakening remained with us.
In order for God to manifest his presence there is something that we need to sacrifice. Usually it’s our traditions and world like focus.
I have alway’s envisioned a church building being built without walls, literally. So that the leaders can’t evict or make outcasts of it’s undesirables. I have literally seen this happen in every church I visited or became a member of.
The Two Witnesses
Now, how many of us have looked at this passage in all our churchdoom, as two magical super hero prophets breathing fire and turning water into blood and shutting up the heavens for rain for 1,230 day’s in the end times and being snuffed out and raised up again?
Some even named the saintly super hero’s as Elijah, Moses and Enoch. Three messengers that had such favor with the Lord, they escaped the death curse, everyone is appointed to die. Right?
Many have come to this conclusion through different means laid out in the following verses in this chapter. We will go over these.
I know I’ve had my imaginations on who this Super Duo may be. Such as, John the Baptist came to us in the power of Elijah, then Enoch and Moses was going to be represented by two super prophets in the last days. I was confused until I learned to look at this passage under different light.
Afterward’s, I said, “WOW”, what a deliverance. I felt something in my spirit become liberated. A witness to my spirit, you might say?
This is another passage that is vailed by the way it was translated and interpreted. And that is where I’m going to start breaking the bread of scripture.
Revelation Chapter 11:3;
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
1. Power – is not in the original text.
2. Witnesses – taken from the greek word “martus”, we have derived the use of this greek word as a martyr.
Today being a martyr has a much different meaning than back then. We look at the word as someone being slain for the cause. We have the book called: John Foxe’s, The Book of Martyrs. Year of publication: 1111. This book has many references to biblical saints who have been martyred for the faith.
Witness – The word use is correct; however as we will find out, this is not referring two individuals but two messages.
Literal biblical definition: A record of a event, or a witness of a event or a testament or a testimony.
3. Prophesy – In breaking up the compounds for prophēteúō; Pro: before or in front of or prior to; Phemi: to bring to light ones thoughts, Phemi is also derived from phaino: to bring to light. Bringing to the forefront a message or a testament.
Literally; brining a given or inspired message to the light. Did anyone have a light bulb go off yet? Let’s not hide our candle under that bushel.
4. Two hundred and threescore days – a timeline of 1,230 days or prophetic years from 688AD leading up-to 1948AD. The dome of the rock project was completed in 688AD and Israel becoming a nation 1948AD.
5. Clothed in sackcloth – peribállō: covering, sákkos: sackcloth, made from long haired goats, also used for straining, symbolizes a mourning garment.
At particular times in history the Church was in a bad state. The church fell into what is called the Dark Ages, when Rome fell and the Constantine & Justinian period risen to power. Eventually this was when the church and state united and became the Holy Roman Empire. There was many atrocities that followed the Church in the Middle Ages that was not in the cause of Jesus Christ. Through the centuries there was the Spanish Inquisition, uprising of Islamic caliphates, which is Counterfeit Judaism. There was much bloodshed during these times. This is important to know progressing into later parts of this study.
This passage should be understood as: The two testaments who were separately witnessed and recorded two separate events, they shall bring forth a testament during a 1230 day period covered in mourning.
In verse 7 uses the same greek word for witness; as testimony.
Now this presents a different thought of what is being revealed next.
These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
1. Two olive trees – In understanding this part of the verse we need to find a reference to this using the verse, chapter, book and testament method.
Who is this olive tree?
Jer. 11:16 – The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
Who was the Lord talking about concerning this verse? Judaea.
And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
This passage talks about two olive trees. One being refined and cultivated, and the other bing a wild unkept olive tree.
The cultivated olive tree being Jacob’s root stock, Jewish branches that were broken off and the unkept wild olive tree being other nations and the broken branches from the original root stock. The Lost Sheep of Israel.
The context of the passage talks about the refined tree being cultivated and the wild tree branches being broken off and grafted into the meat or the trunk of the refined olive tree. If the root is holy so is the meat of the tree, with that bing holy, all that grows from the root, trunk, branches, leaves and fruit of the trunk thereof is made holy.
Is this passage talking about the refined branches being pruned because of unbelief? No, Paul made it quit clear that we as the gentiles should not boast.
In verse 30 – 32; this point is made:
Read the whole context of this chapter. God didn’t remove any natural branch for disbelief. Their disbelief was for a reason, that we Gentiles will have our redemption through our belief opportunity. God hardened the natural branches hearts. Because their gift and calling is with out repentance. Because of our past wild olive tree days of disbelief, we now have a opportunity to believe and receive mercy because of their unbelief. And they have mercy because of our belief. I don’t see any other way to read this passage. We Christians need to stop being so self centered as were the one and only. Who else is God going to have to graft in because of our hardened hearts. There has been much faith lost because of how we selfishly behaved.
Also keep in mind that lost northern tribes of Israel, God evicted because of unfaithfulness and idolatry, those branches were broken off an burned. They now have the ability to be grafted back in, and how much more will be there graft than the gentiles graft. First the Jew then the Greek. The southern nation of Judah were not broken off.
These branches represents the two covenants or testaments made. Each has their destiny to fulfill during these difficult times set forth. What affects one will affect the other. Even still, the Jewish people may even find their difficulties with the church. We two olive trees branches are now with a one root system.
2. The two Candlesticks – We don’t need to go too far to find what these two candlesticks represents.
Revelations chapter one refers to candlesticks as being a church, a church is defined as a gathering of people. Or ekklesia; the called out ones. As with this verse those who stand before God of the earth.
It is very clear that the two candlesticks are burning the oil of two olive trees made into one at the root or base that joins them together are the ones standing before God.
3. Before the God of the earth – Literary; standing before the face of God, or in His presence.
In Zechoriah 4:1-14’ Describes a very similar scene found in Revelation 11. In verse 14th calls the two olive trees and candle sticks represent the anointed ones. The literal translation for anointed ones is bēn; which means son. The actual offspring or adopted. It seem probable that these two trees joined at the root represents two different children types. Not a actual individual separate entities but as one people.
By the way the use of ben and téknon; in old an New Testament is gender neutral. Meaning Children.
1 John 3;
Vs 1. Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Vs 2. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
We as believers in Jesus the Christ have become the sons of God.
Galatians 3: 29 – And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Other Old Testament passages concerning the olive tree:
Jeremiah 11:16, Isaiah 17:6, Isaiah 24:13, and Hosea 14:6
And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Hurt – Literally unjust or do them wrong
Fire proceedeth out of their mouth – Literally; a spoken fire proceeds from their mouths.
Jeremiah 5:14 – Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak— this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.
Figuratively saying the words of the prophet will consume the wood or the people. Some by the sword and some to be taken away. Not fire breathing prophets.
Heb. 1:7 – And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb. 10:27 – But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Basically over come the enemies by our testimony of the Sone of God not breath fire on them.
What is the fire that proceeds from these prophets mouths? The Word. Now we ask ourselves how is this going to devour them?
And what will devour them and kill them?
Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
1 Peter 1:7;
That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
First, we were talking about the injustice shown to us because of the testament we present, this is the trial by fire in perfecting our faith.
Rom. 12:20 – Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
Heap – can interpreted as being burdened with sin.
Is this feeding their flesh with food and water? Or can it be feeding them with the word and spirit.
Basically our witness will be of kindness, that will bring to conscience their sinful nature. Killing their nature with the kindness and gentleness of the word.
I look at this figuratively and not just literally.
These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
1. Power – Authority; exousía, literally; as the law allows. In this case, thelaw of heaven allows.
2. To shut heaven – literally; to close the sky.
For what purpose?
3. That it rain not in the days of their prophecy – This is where the confusion of Elijah as a one of the witnesses come in.
So now, is this a literal shutting up the sky to keep it from raining or to make it rain literally?
Amos 8:11, 12;
Vs 11. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing — the words of the LORD: Vs 12. And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek — the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.
Remember; these witnesses are not two individuals existing for 1230 years. This is the testimony or the two testaments. Not just one.
I have brought this passage up in my first study post. They shall run to and fro and the word of the Lord can not be heard or understood until it’s fulfilled. This to and fro can be seen as the wilderness experience of the woman of Israel, and the church during this period.
What can shut up the people of God from hearing His true Word of Jesus? The same here in this passage; rebellion, Read Ezekiel chapter 16 about the sins of Sodom likened to Israel. By the way, it wasn’t because where the people put their genitalia. Pride, haughtiness, calm complacency leads to idolatry. The immorality in this passage was talking about pagan practices. In some passages, immorality is also considered as, not taking care of the orphan and the widow.
Vs 6. And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it. Vs 7. For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.
The clouds will rain no rain. Drying up the word of prophecy or the word of the Lord.
Once again, leaving the people of God high and dry without the prophetic Word or the Voice of the Lord during a previous wilderness experience. Can be taken into a future wilderness experience.
4. This is where the Moses being one of the witnesses confusion comes in:
And have power over waters to turn them to blood,
Power – Once again; authority or the law allows.
Waters – Literary; to rain, figuratively water.
But rain what?
Rev 17:15; And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
It’s raining people.
We covered this also in Heaven’s Sevens part of these posts.
Daniel 9:26; And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Jerusalem was flooded with a people from other nations and languages of another persuasion of a different God.
Now what was this water turning into?
The blood is part of the life of the body, literally. However this can be looked at figuratively as inhibiting a movement or action, like taking the life out it.
There has been much evidence of bloodshed driving back the antichrist beasts. And many martyrs of the cause. At this time the 7th beast was in play, driven back nearly to death. Then resurrected into the 8th antichrist beast we are seeing today.
In turn the dark ages the fallen church had it’s part in plaguing the Jewish people as well. The inquisitions were to limit who can and who can’t come to Christ, especially if you were a Jew. The Spanish Inquisitions was to scathe off Jewish conversions. This wasn’t part of the witnesses testimony.
What are we plagued with?
Plagues – plēgḗ; Literally, to strike or bring injury or to wound. NOT DISEASES!
What was the two testaments a plague to? The antichrist beasts.
Again, what is a antichrist. Read: Denying the Son part of this blog series.
And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make waragainst them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Finished their testimony – this is the 1230 year period during this wilderness journey that the testimony will eventually spread through out to the ends of the earth.
This is the wrap up: 1948.
The beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit – following the wrap up of two witnesses or testimonies purpose. The seventh beast will rise it’s ugly head again as the revived 7th beast becoming the eighth beast. This followed the 1948 turning point of history. After all the center of the whole wide world is Jerusalem. We are now in the final generation part of history. The second part of the final Daniel’s week in chapter 9.
Jerusalem is the center or the naval of the world! Who’s the butt end of it?
Follow this link for a good study concluding this statement:
Church! Get ready for a bumpy ride. We are seeing the beginnings of the end birth pangs today. It’s happening fast.
What happens following Revelations 11:7 is to be determined. In my view. As with all prophetic, the revelation doesn’t come in to fruition until it actually happens. Christ did seal up part of this vision of John 10:4. We’ll understand this when it comes about. As in Daniel’s Chapter 9:24-27 & Daniel 12:11 vision, the to and froknowledge of the vision will increase, didn’t wrap up until the Messiah was taken from us and the defilement of the Temple Mount.
The Witness of the Witnesses
This may sound like a different angle of this passage.
What was the two witnesses, witnessing?
The Word, the Water and the Blood
The authority of the Testaments.
The blood, washing of the water of the word, and the Holy Spirit.
John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
1 John 5;
Vs 5. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? Vs 6. This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. Vs 7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The Water – that carries the life of the blood
The Blood – that offers the Life as a reconciling promise of the Covenant.
The Holy Spirit – The Holy Breath of Fresh Air that brings forth and carries the Life to all.
Record – again: literally to bear witness.
What does the Holy Spirit witness?
What the Father of Heaven and Earth revealed:
Jesus is the Christ, the only begotten Son of the Father.
This foundation revelation is all that His Church is built on.
The three in one and one in three: the Father, Son & Holy Spirit, they bear the testament or witness the overcome the world by is blood, water and the testament.
Keep in mind:
The Lord in the Old Testament is the same Lord in the New Testament.
The one sacrifice covered two peoples.
The two covenants are joined as one olive tree, Israel and the root that sustains this tree is one Lord.
I have declared, and have saved, and I have showed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.
Now that we may look at the end times a little differently, what are we to do with this?
Be free, find liberty in our hearts. Have a stronger faith in our Lord of Heaven and earth. Jesus the Christ, the son of the living God the Father.
The Woman, being Israel, was given two wings of a great eagle, that she could fly into the wilderness for her survival, in her own place, where she is taken care of for a time, and times, and half a time from the serpent.
Unnderstand these points in this passage:
The woman – who – Israel
A Eagle with two wings – what – ?
Wilderness – where – was place of safety from the serpent.
Time – When – a time, and times, and a half a time. TTHT
Nourished – why – to find strength, seeds will become the sands of the sea.
We’ll get to “what” and “when” in a moment.
We need to come to an understanding when the phrase; A time, times and a half a time is referenced two there may be a number value, however something more is to be comprehended. I will use TTHT when ever I make reference to this expression.
Before we get to another timeline, we have to understand that this doesn’t work the same as other timelines given in the Old Testament.
In the Old Testament the prophetic time lines uses a day equals a year, and there were 360 days in a year as in Daniel 9:25 and 9:27.
Having in mind that when we use scripture to define scripture, especially when a prophetic message appears, we need to use this principle:
If you can’t find the answer in the verse we need to go to the chapter,
If you can not find the answer in the chapter, then the book,
If not the book then the whole testament.
Then, if not the testament then we can go to the other testament.
We find a new, what I will call a cipher for TTHT. A New Testament & Old Testament, we have a new cipher.
Here is were we find our new ciphers:
2 Peter 3:8;
But, beloved, be not ignorant — of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
In the Old Testament:
For a thousand years in thy sight [are but] as yesterday when it is past, and [as] a watch in the night.”
The context of the 2nd Peter passage was written referencing the last days. As well as the passage in Revelations.
Now we have the cipher of what equals a day as a 1000 years.
What day is it?
The Greek word used for “day” in this verse is “hemera” in the greek. This word has also been translated in the Greek as; season, year, period, day, moment, and time. The “hemera” translation has been use a few times as “ a period of time” in the New Testament.
The Day of the Lord
The literal meaning of the word is “daytime” or day light. It’s a time period between dawn till dusk. Sun up til sundown. Not necessarily a twenty four hours in a day. It is used figuratively as “day” cycle of our planet.
The correct layout of this passage should read, “in the sun rise and sunset or the light of day, is with the Lord, is a thousand years, and a thousand years in a day”. Not one rotation of our planet. It seems that to use “time” in place of day, would have been a better choice.
Hemera was never confused as a rotation of our planet til our more recent age.
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
In Ecclesiastes the word “time” and “seasons” are use interchangeably through out scripture.
As with 2 Peter, “day” has been used interchangeably with seasons and the list goes on: Always, Day, Days Judgement, Seasons, years, time, daily and daytime.
Revelations 12:14 use of “time” can be transliterated as “a season” or a multiple of days in a event.
Let’s suggest the correct usage should be “time” and not “day”.
Saying it up the right way
In order to break down this passage found in 2 Peter, We need to understand when sayings or idioms are used, for time. A day equals a thousand years or a day equals a year. Can read a “time or a season” equals a thousand years.
As far as this timeline cipher goes, how do we know what “time” represents in Revelation 12:17. We need to understand how TTHT was used as a saying or idiom is in this passage.
First, this old saying is only used three times in the Bible. OT & NT. Daniel 7:25, 12:7 and Revelation 12:17. In all instances the same Lord was speaking to the author who was scribing the message. As I have mentioned earlier in previous posts. This same Divine Revelator carries on the same message from the Old Testament Daniel to the New Testament Revelation.
To truly understand the concept, lets not fully look at it as a mathematical formula, but a metaphor of time. Both passages in 2 Peter 3:8 and Revelation 12:17.
A thousand years and a thousand years again and a half a thousand years for a total of Twenty five hundred years.
Remember this wasn’t up until the New Testament that the cipher for this idiom was revealed.
Where traditional understanding had failed, is that the use of TTHT was not nessesarily a mathematical formula to be figured out, per say. Remember when we found that 666 didn’t represent a number, but a mark of an image.
As with this, the reference to TTHT is an idiom.
We will look at another idiom used in scripture:
Job 33:14, Job 40:5 & Psalms 62:11.
“For God has spoken once, yea twice”.
If we would add this up to a sum of a number of attempts it could be seem as 1+2=3. NOT!
What this is pointing out is that God had to repeat Himself again for the sum of twice. Not twice more but a second time. Not three time total.
We all grew up with this saying, “I have said this once, and I will not say it again”. So how many times was this stated? One time or two times, “I will not repeat myself is implied, after the second time”?
In correctly looking at TTHT, should be looked at as ,”A time as the first time, times as the second time or time again, and then a half a time more”.
So, when using the expression TTHT as an idiom we are literally looking at this as a time, and a time again or twice, and a half a time. The number expression of time is 1 time + 1 time (repeat) + 1/2 of a time = 2.5 times not 3.5 times.
So if one day(time) is a thousand years, then this would come to two and a half thousand years. Not three thousand and a half hundred years.
Time or a day equals 1000 years, and TTHT equals 2500 years.
Now all we need is a starting point.
The Starting Point
As I mentioned in Part One of this study, That we need to keep a particular date in mind.
In revisiting the prior part of the study:
Some important Dates to remember:
By 734 B.C., Tiglath-Pileser had conquered much of the countries between Mesopotamia and the Mediterranean Sea.
In 724 BC, nearly ten years after the initial deportations, the capital city of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, Samaria, was finally taken by Sargon II under Tiglath-Pileser. The Assyrians, fearing more revolts, began major population relocations during the reign of King Sargon II.
In 722 B.C. Samaria finally fell. The fall of Israel’s Capital City. Even though King Hoshea quickly surrendered rather than face the Assyrian onslaught previously, Shalmaneser continued forward until the complete fall of Israel’s Capital.
We are taking the date 724bc because this was the remanent and the majority that was left after the first invasion. The Assyrian ruler did not want an uprising. He had those who remained in the land, Israelites, was to be dispersed through out the Assyrian Kingdom and allies, and replaced the inhabitance of the nation Israel with his own people and sympathizers.
Now that we understand how the TTHT timeline works, when we have a singular value “one day” is a thousand years.
As we came up with the value previously, we can take the date of 724BC and subtract it from 2500 years. No conversion is need for prophetic years because the time the book of Revelations is written in was solar years.
WOW! Does that date look familiar?
Now we understand how that the USA became a part of this timeline. We also have to under stand the importance of Great Britain role in leading up to this historical event.
So, in looking at the events in the break down of Revelation 12:14, we fined that;
What? – An eagle with two wings – the bald eagle
When? TTHT – 1776
The One that came before the other
There was a Great Britain before there was a United States of America.
Many who have taught which way did the lost tribes go, have rested on Britain being the tribe of Ephraim and the USA being the tribe of Manasseh. However, how did they come into the world? First Manasseh then Ephraim. Britain did come in first as the birth of Manasseh and Ephraim did come second. However Jacob or Israel made Ephraim his first born and given him his name and a great multitude of nations and Manasseh he in second with the crossover blessing as being a great nation but will not rival his younger brother.
THE CROSSOVER BLESSING
Genesis 48; Joseph’s two sons blessing
And Joseph took — them both, — EPHRAIM in his RIGHT HAND toward Israel’s left hand, and — MANASSEH in his LEFT HAND toward Israel’s right hand, and brought them near unto him. And Israel stretched out — his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim’s head, who was the younger, and — his left hand upon Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
Ephraim was at Joseph’s right hand and he placed him at Israel’s left hand, Manasseh was at Joseph’s left and he placed him at Israel’s right hand. Israel extended his right hand and placed it on the younger Ephraim’s head, and placed his left hand on the older Manasseh’s head.
Israel blessed the two of them that they will grow into a multitude of nations, with Ephraim being his first born.
Joseph was displeased because his first born Manasseh didn’t receive his grandfathers right hand. He took his fathers hand on Ephraim and started to move it to Manasseh’s head.
Israel knew what he was doing with crossing his arms so that Ephraim would receive the first first born blessing. The younger would be greater than the older. He said Manasseh would be a great people, but his younger would become a multitude of nations. And that Israel’s name be upon Ephraim.
It was tradition that the first born to receive the fathers first born blessing upon the fathers death bed. However this cross over blessing wasn’t the first time, remember Esau and Isaac?
Jacob was telling his children what will befall them in the last days.
The first three of his children including his first born Rueben, Jacob wasn’t too pleased with after sleeping with Jacob’s concubine. Simeon and Levi were co conspirators leading up-to Joseph’s time in Egypt.
Talk about being jealous of daddy’s favorite.
Jacob’s first born didn’t receive the first born blessing, Ephraim received that.
He was the last of the lot.
And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head. And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations. And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set — Ephraim before Manasseh.
Joseph correcting his father that Manasseh is his first born, and his father correct’s Joeseph by saying, I know. Jacob says that Manasseh will be a great nation, however Ephraim will be a multitude of nations.
Don’t confuse Britain as a multitude of nations or colonies as being today.
Look at the United States of America and all the nations or colonies that came into form what we call our nation in the beginning. It may have started in 1442. It became a Nation in 1776.
There is a time that a nation or a son needs set out on it’s own. This country was under British control and taxation. It seems kind of ironic that is how Israel broke from Judah, we under went some of the same burdens of taxation that caused civil unrest and eventually a new nation.
In doing so we become a nation to find freedom from state mandated worship in it’s constitution while keeping God as it’s center and gave other protected freedoms. And eventually a One Nation Under God.
When the Church became political was when,
The United States came after Great Britain. and the USA receives the crossover blessing from the Lord Himself! Through Jacob’s blessing. Jacob didn’t say that Ephraim the tribe was to be a multitude of nations in the land of Israel, did he. Ephraim was hidden through out the British Kingdom at that time, however they didn’t stay there. They, the nations, migrated to the new wilderness promised land. That flows with milk and honey. The British UK used to have 57 colonies and now they have dwindled to 14. And the US had 13 colonies that increased to 50 colonies or states. It also seem ironic that Ephraim was the 13th tribe and the birth of our nation started with 13 colonies.
EPHRAIM, GOD’S SPIRITUAL FIRSTBORN
In this part of the study we have learned that;
Ephraim was the chief warring tribe, with great influence among all the other Tribes.
Ephraim will become a multitude of nations by taking the other nations into her bosom.
With tribe of Ephraim the nation tribes conquered and drove out the foreigners that occupied the land that was promised to the people of Israel. With this same tribe, Ephraim caused the people of Israel to be driven out of the promised land.
Jeremiah 31:6 – For there shall be a day, that the WATCHMEN upon the mount EPHRAIM shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God.
The return started with the Ephraim’s cry from the mount of Ephraim, to the nations of Israel, to go up to Zion unto the Lord your God.
His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.
But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.
Jesus’s cross over blessing.
Even though Britain had a part in Israel becoming a nation, they took possession of the the land from the Ottoman Empire in 1917 after WW1, but held back relinquishing its control. Even with the mission to reseed the Jews into the land, they had difficulties, maybe because of the surrounding area tension. They did let go of control at Gods appointment time.
Ask ourselves, why do we as a nation fight everyone’s battles? This is why, “We fight that others may enjoys the same freedoms as we do”. Nearly every war outside of our borders was a beast war. Nazi Germany, Communism, Islam. And now we see that satan is taking this war within our borders today. A serpent war of spirit of antichrist, with in our own borders.
Psalms 83:1 – 5;
Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
Ephraim or the lost tribes of Israel was absorbed into the gentile world, from sea to shiny sea, along the waters they shall spread. The Lord hid them from sight so that they will not come to end. This is Satans one goal. That the people of God will be no more or the people will remember their God no more.
This day, who are the people of God?
The two candlesticks, the two olive branches, the keepers of the message of the covenants. The two shall become one branch.
What nation in this age has been the most fruitful in getting the gospel out more than any other country, since the time of it’s inception. What nation has fought more wars on the physical and spiritual level, in projecting the gospel message and protecting the areas where it was penned, than any other nation? That has helped fight off every Beast War attack since the founding of its nation, within and out of its boarders. What nation has spent more time and resources in relief for those in need, in or abroad, and more on fighting the Communist Darwin-Marxist’s ideology(faith) and islamic ideology(faith), protecting a right that has been built into to its governing foundation, to have a fundamental right to worship freely, and with dignity? What does Biblical Scripture have to say about this watchman.
The scripture reference above talks about two different houses, House of Judah and the House of Joseph. Two separate houses of the children of Israel or Jacob. He called one stick Ephraim for his companions(other tribes) and the other Judah for the whole house of Israel to be joined as one House. The House of David.
What was Ephraim’s part in the this household?
Who did this Double Fruitful Tribe become?
What nation in our age has taken a role in holding the freedoms in this world in balance.
Now look at Satans strategy on the levels of the before mentioned ideologies and how he is trying to fight back with in its boarders, the freedoms of this nation’s influence today.
Look at today, in Britain, how fundamental freedoms are being taken away. In some parts even giving way to Sharia Law, and governing no rights of free speech, per-say.
Now lets start break the spiritual bread of Scripture.
1. At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people.
Addressing all 13 tribes.
2. Thus saith the LORD, The people which were left of the sword found grace in the wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest.
This time was following the Babylonian exile of Judaea, this was the House of Judah; with Benjamin and Levi. Jeremiah being from the Tribe of Benjamin. Prior to this, the exile of Israel the 10 tribes went into exile in Assyria with no promise of return, unlike Judaea, many of the remnants of Israel migrated, some of those who found grace in all of the twelve tribes being brought together. Some tribes from the second exile caught up with the other tribes from the first. They will be united one way or another in the wilderness. These tribes have been recorded as migrating west between The Black Sea and Caspian Sea. As far west as what’s know to day as England, Ireland, Scotland and colonies. They became the Irish Celts and other communities in the areas. There is record evidence that shows Jeremiah the Prophet was buried in Ireland, and the two daughters of King Zedekiah daughters migrating with Jeremiah. The Lord commission’s the prophet to protect the line of David, through the seed of a woman and not necessarily from the seed of a man. Since King Zedekiah’s sons were killed with no heirs to the House of David.
Keep in mind that Jesus’s linage with King David was along a different rout with both Mary and Joseph. Jesus’s linage came from Mary and not Joseph. Matthew covers Joseph’s linage back to David, So Luke does Mary’s lineage back to Adam. However you look at it, linage is covered.
In understanding King David’s linage surviving today was through Zedekiah’s two daughters and who they were married to. Judas linage was covered by Perez This is recorded that both daughters were married. King Zedekiah daughter Tea Tephi became a Queen of Ireland and his daughter Scota the progenitor of Scotland. We will learn more about this in another study.
3. The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.
They have been drawn together by His lovingkindness.
4. Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry. 5. Thou shalt yet plant vines upon the mountains of Samaria: the planters shall plant, and shall eat them as common things.
Summery: Those who spared from the sword has found grace with God, He will bring them back to the life they once knew. She will be known as a untouched bride, betrothed to their Lord. They shall bring produce from the Mounts of Samaria, once was the Capital of Israel’s lost 10 tribes.
During the time of Christ; there was a instance with the woman of the well, a Samaritan woman that our Lord had a certain conversation with. The woman knew the relationship they had between the north and the south. Such as we have known in our history, our civil war in the US. They did’t associate. Jesus did. And what about the parable of Good Samaritan. Another point that Jesus was making, looking beyond the history and seeing that which He has planted from the beginning.
6. For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God.
The watchman – known as strength or protector, this has been referenced in other passages concerning the Tribe of Ephraim.
Mount Ephraim – Tribe of Ephraim’s settlement. the northern tribe.
Arise ye – literally arise from your slumber.
7. For thus saith the LORD; Sing with gladness for Jacob, and shout among the chief of the nations: publish ye, praise ye, and say, O LORD, save — thy people, — the remnant of Israel.
The redemption plan of this lost nation has been set forth.
8. Behold, I will bring — them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
9. They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim — is my firstborn.
10. Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say,
Faraway places being islands of the west.
11. He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. For the LORD hath redeemed — Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he.
The Lord keeps His promise to Jacob.
The encyclopedia Brittanica has this to say about the Tribe of Ephraim:
This is pretty much the rundown of the Tribe of Ephraim’s history. They were the war tribe or chief protector tribe starting with Joshua, to Ahab and ending with Hoshea. What a fall from grace for the Nation.
The Ephraim tribe settlement was on the Mountain’s to the north of Judah, to the north of Jerusalem. Known as the Northern Tribe. They were really known as a 13th tribe. Since Jacob added his Joseph’s two sons as his own sons.
I have covered some of Jeremiah 30 in “The Woman in the Wilderness” Post. Read it all.
We have gone into why Rachael was weeping for her Children. This wan’t prior the troubles just before Christ’s birth, This was the troubles before the new nation of Israel became a nation in 1948, sign of Jacob’s Troubles.
Now we will go into a little more about how how the one Nation of Judaea became two Nations.
Battle of the Boam’s
The Tribe of Ephraim was located on the mountains north of Jerusalem. I believe this was a strategic location for the Chief Tribe, as they are the war tribe. The most powerful of the tribes. They were responsible for the breaking away from Judaea during a near civil war that God averted through a man of God, Shemaiah a prophet, now the south nation being Solomon’s son Rehoboam king of Judah, Israel being the northern nation ruled by the newly established King Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim. After the split, Jeroboam didn’t feel safe going into Rehoboam’s ruled areas for his people to worship, he rebelled against his God and and made two calf’s of gold, placed one in Bethel and the other was placed in Dan. Hence the Northern Nation’s downfall from God’s grace. It’s kinda ironic that the nations were split because of heavy taxation from King Solomon and his son Rehomoam. The son took counsel from the elders on how to handle this matter. He refused their counsel and took the counsel from the brats he grew up with. Because of Solomon’s idolatry and rebellion the Lord spoke through a prophet that this split would happen.
Think of the similarities of the civil split that took place in Judaea and USA, both was from unfair taxation and personal freedoms. Also think of our civil divide between the north and the south on ideologies.
Read 1 Kings chapter 12 for the whole story.
Ephraim’s role in Judah
Gilead is mine, and Manasseh is mine; Ephraim also is the strength of mine head; Judah is my lawgiver;
Ephraim taking the leadership as a protector of God’s interests. Judah being the lawgiver. More later.
Scattering the Northern Nation
A warning and a promise from the Lord
Nehemiah 1:8, 9;
8. Remember, I beseech thee, — the word that thou commandedst — thy servant Moses, saying, If ye transgress, I will scatter you abroad among the nations:
This was the Lord’s warning to Moses to give to the people Israel if they take up their old habits, as coming from Egypt.
9. But if ye turn unto me, and keep my commandments, and do — them; though there were of you cast out unto the uttermost part of the heaven, yet will I gather them from thence, and will bring them unto the place that I have chosen to set — my name there.
However, the Lord will return them from where they were cast out. He made this promise before they became a Nation by reclaiming the land that was given to Jacob.
Promise made, promise kept. A God of His word, kept His end of the deal.
Following scripture summaries are paraphrased.
Isa 63:1 – 6;
Northern Nation of Israel garments were stained with their own blood. There was none that stood for their God, he set out his anger and treaded them with war, and their blood even touch His garments. The Lord sets out with His anger on those whom he redeemed. And His kingly garments was stain with their blood as they would be in a wine vat. They will be made drunk with their own blood.
Verse 7 – 14;
The Lord remembers His time in the wilderness with the people of Israel, He remembers his strong arm extended through his servant Moses to provide and protect His people. God had high hopes that His people would embrace Him.
Verse 15 – 19;
The Lord looks down from heaven, and talks about how they lost their zeal and strength, the sounding of their insides of their womb, are they holding back from him. They have forgotten their roots. They ask the Lord to return for their fathers and the Lords servants sake. We are yours, Don’t leave our land and to rule those who are not called by your name.
From this point on, the tribes were scattered.
In reading the book of Hosea the prophet, he story lines his life parallels his with the way God’s rocky relationship with His his unfaithful bride, the people of Israel. Hosea took a prostitue to be his wife, symbolized God’s troubles with His bride’s unfaithfulness. Hosea left his wife, God’s leaving His bride to be taken away into the wilderness. And Hosea take back his unfaithful wife. God returns Israel to it inheritance.
In his writings he never mentioned a call to repentance, only Judgement and a promise of their return. He wrote the book just before the siege of the capital. He also writes about God taking his disobedient bride back.
He parallels his life to the likeness of his prophetic message.
There were two asyrian rulers involed in deporting the northern tribe, the later ruler more so.
The Lord shall bring upon thee, and upon thy people, and upon thy father’s house, days that have not come, from the day that Ephraim departed from Judah, even the king of Assyria.
2 Kings 15:29
In the days of Pekah, king of Israel, came Tiglath-Pileser, king of Assyria, and took Ijon, and Abel-Beth-Maachah, and Janoah, and Kedesh, and Hazor, and Gilead, and Galilee, all the land of Naphtali, and carried them captive to Assyria.
Some important Dates to remember:
I pulled this up from several sources found on the internet.
By 734 B.C., Tiglath-Pileser had conquered much of the countries between Mesopotamia and the Mediterranean Sea.
In 724 BC, nearly ten years after the initial deportations, the capital city of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, Samaria, was finally taken by Sargon II. The Assyrians, fearing more revolts, began major population relocations during the reign of King Sargon II.
In 722 B.C. Samaria fell. The fall of Israel’s Capital City. Even though King Hoshea quickly surrendered rather than face the Assyrian onslaught, Shalmaneser continued forward until the fall of Israel’s Capital.
28. He is come to Aiath, he is passed to Migron; at Michmash he hath laid up his carriages: 29. They are gone over the passage: they have taken up their lodging at Geba; Ramah is afraid; Gibeah of Saul is fled. 30. Lift up thy voice, O daughter of Gallim: cause it to be heard unto Laish, O poor Anathoth. 31. Madmenah is removed; the inhabitants of Gebim gather themselves to flee. 32. As yet shall he remain at Nob that day: he shall shake his hand against the mount of the daughter of Zion, the hill of Jerusalem.
The Assyrian king did have his sights set on Judah and Jerusalem, however King Hezekiah at the time was taking counsel with Isaiah and did right in the sight of God. As the army was approaching Judah to over take it. Because of the king of Judah faith in the Lord, God sent and angel to kill about 185 thousand of the Assyrian soldiers.
This stopped the movement from going forward. And Judah and Jerusalem was left for another time and another foreign king.
Which Way Did They Go?
During the Assyrian King Sargon II reign, the remnant that remained in Israel was relocated. The king didn’t want any uprisings from the people and he handed the land over to foreigners to occupy the area that were trusted by him. This was the major relocation effort which is important prophetic time point for what is going to be pointed out later.
This king carried off the northern nation of Israel and relocated them in parts through out the kingdoms of his influence.
There has been much speculation and writing on this subject, and a lot of assumptions have been made about the lost tribes of Israel. Many say that the tribes left to make great nations in our world today. That maybe so.
Dispersed amoung the gentile nations.
Hosea 1:10-11; This was prophesied after the fall and is a promise of the Lord to the people of Israel and Judah.
Trough out the entire book of Hosea there was no call to repentance. Just judgement going forward and a promise of redemption.
10. Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
11. Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.
They will be as the sands of the sea?
Where is the mass multitude coming from?
Jezreel – This has been where a few game changing events in the nation’s history took place. The history began in Jezreel as a turning point of for Joshua’s of the tribe of Ephraim victory over the canaanites, and it will be the turning point in Israel’s demise. Read Hosea chapter one.
Jezreel was not only a strategic place for the military, It was also a place that the royal snow birds came to during harsh winters of Samaria. A place that crops can be produced in all season.
Vs 8.Behold, I will bring — them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
Vs 9. They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim — is my firstborn.
Vs 10. Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.
How were they planted?
So, How would God his sow the seeds of his nations, the seeds through out the world to support the nation of His Israel. Is He going to throw a hand full here a hand full there? In the ancient times, how did they sow their seeds, they would cusp the seeds in their hand and scatter them through a controlled opening in their hand, as they moved their hand from the west to the east, or from the right to the left, allowing a even dispersement the seeds to fall to the ground.
Hosea 2:19 – 23
19. And I will betroth thee unto me forever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies. 20. I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know — the LORD. 21. And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear — the heavens, and they shall hear — the earth; 22. And the earth shall hear — the corn, and — the wine, and — the oil; and they shall hear — Jezreel. 23. And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon — her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.
Betrothed – A promised wife.
The whole earth – Not just one continent but all.
He will sow the corn, and — the wine, and — the oil; and they shall hear — Jezree.
These are all products of harvest crops. Corn is actually grains, wine from grapes, oil from olives.
For, lo, I will command, and I will sift — the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
The Lord is going to sift or separate the good from the bad. The sinners shall shall blow away by the sword while the grain remains. These seeds will be held back for the crop of the sower.
Amos 9:13 – 15;
13. Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt. 14. And I will bring again — the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink — the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat — the fruit of them. 15. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
To whom is the Lord speaking of? The Lost 10 Tribes.
The Lord has been sowing the seed of Israel to the whole earth. Not just a continent but all continents. From the west of Israel they come, from the seas they will return. From the east they will return.
Ask ourselves, what is to the west of Israel? The Mediterranean Sea. There is not much landmass to the west between Israel and the sea. They are coming from somewhere.
Writer(s): Josh Homme, Mark Lanegan, Joey Castillo, Troy Van Leeuwen
Where, oh, where have you been my love? Where, oh, where can you be? It’s been so long, since the moon has gone. and oh what a wreck you’ve made me
Are you there, over the ocean? Are you there, up in the sky? Until the return of my love This lullaby
My Hope is on the horizon Every face, it’s your eyes I can see I plead, I pray through each night and day Our embrace is only a dream.
And as sure as days come from moments Each hour becomes a life’s time When she’d left, I’d only begun this lullaby
This song came my mind.
I can hear the Lord singing out through time for his lost love to return.
Where ever the lost tribes be, they will be the sands of the sea.
A judgement and a plan.
Romans 9:26, 27;
26. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. 27. Isaiah also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
They will not be recognized as isrealites but the sons of the Living God.
Rom 11:25, 26;
25. For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. 26. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Paul, being the Apostle to the gentiles knew the very important part the the Gentiles would play in Israels salvation.
We are not trying to make the Jews believe what we believe for their salvation, What we believe brings salvation to the Jews. Our salvation is not through the law but through Jesus.
So did the Lord bring the Jews return to the Holy Land in 1948? After the resurrection by the way. Did the Lord bring the People of Israel home to just become Christians and know Jesus? God fulfill a promise that the two nations will return and become one. One being the Law Giver and scepter of the House of Judah and the other His Fruitfulness(Ephraim) as the sands of the sea.
In order for Israel to be saved all gentiles needed to be redeemed not the other way around. Israel shall be saved when the redeemer of the gentiles come’s arrives through our faith.
Acts 16:31 – And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Can my faith in Jesus Christ save my house, family? Does the roof that covers my faith also cover all those who are in it? The House of Israel, and the House of Judah.
When we read the above passage it states, “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved and thy house”, and not, “believe and thy house in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved”.
Hosea 11:8 – 10
Vs 8. How shall I give thee up, Ephraim? how shall I deliver thee, Israel? how shall I make thee as Admah? how shall I set thee as Zeboim? mine heart is turned within me, my repentings are kindled together. Vs 9. I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
Admah and Zeboiim were the little towns outside of Sodom and Gomorroh, which were burned up with the larger cities when the sulfury fire of God fell from heaven in judgment on them.
God is talking to the Northern Nations in addressing Ephraim.
Vs 10. They shall walk after the LORD: he shall roar like a lion: when he shall roar, then the children shall tremble from the west.
They shall walk after the Lord, Ephraim will roar like a lion, then the children will tremble from the west.
To tremble: or to shutter or wake up abruptly, become alert. A trumpet sounding for an alarm or an announcement.
Coming from the west. This is a geographic location.
Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned.
Ephraim mixed himself with the other cultures and nations taking on their way’s and practices, allowing foreigners to come in and mingling them selves in with their way’s. Basically the Lord becoming the unknown God. Idolatry.
We see this in our nation today. Foreigners coming in and trying to make their laws and beliefs as the law of the land and their practices among the peoples of this nation as a practice for all including the natural born citizens. They want to take freedom and replacing it with Communism and Islam Sharia Law being among some. These are antichrist beasts. If they can’t take this nation by war, they can by subtle infiltration. This has been in process for decades. Under the guise of progression and asylum immigration.
Have we ever heard of the saying or idiom, “a plan being half baked”? Maybe the Ephriam plan was to carry on at a later time. I see a pan cake that is ready to be turned but something interrupted the process. It may have gotten charred on one side. I see a nation that was cut off from God’s plan because of unfaithfulness, got burned. Scripture follows, God may have abandoned one plan, but redeemed it at a later time with a new plan.
Some may see this passage a bit more differently. As it’s over for Ephraim, and God is going to start over with something new. I do not. God isn’t going to throw out the half baked bread and start over. He will try to redeem the cake. The Lord had a plan for Ephraim all a long and He’s not going to throw the dough out. He is going to complete the other side. God sees it that way as well.
Ephraim’s history is only half over, the rest his history is yet to come.
Verse 9-17 the other side of Ephraim’s cake..
Hosea 9:13; taken from the Young’s translation
Ephraim! when I have looked to the rock(as a rock), Is planted in comeliness(meadow), And Ephraim [is] to bring out unto a slayer his sons.
I use The Young’s Littoral Translation because it truer to the original. Some translates rock as Tyrus or palm.
Should read – “I see Ephraim like rock that is planted in a pleasant place, but he shall bring forth his children to the murderer.”
The context of this passage is very grave. It talks about the children of Ephraim will be handed over to the murderer. It seems that they will be uprooted from the land and handed over to another. They shall be wonderers among the nations. Much of this verse is figurative. They will carry out this curse for themselves in one form or another.
Ephraim, God’s Spiritual Firstborn
In this study we have learned that;
Ephraim was the chief warning tribe, with great influence among the Tribes.
Ephraim will become a multitude of nations.
Ephraim absorbed into the gentile world, Did the Lord hide them from sight?
With Ephraim tribesconquered and drove out the foreigners that took possession of the land that was promised to the people of Israel. With the same tribe of Ephraim caused the people of Israel that were driven out of the promised land, return home.
Jeremiah 31:6 6. For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God.
The return started with the Ephraim’s cry from the mount of Ephraim, to the nations of Israel, to go up to Zion unto the Lord your God.
The Lord show’s companion on Ephraim. He remembers His Promise to Jacob.
Vs 1 – And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Rise – literally, to arise from your slumber.
Vs 2 – But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
The Holy City is Jerusalem
In understanding these verses we have a general idea of what has transpired on the Temple Mount in the previous studies.
This passage has been confused with a Great Tribulation yet to come and the new temple to come. It is not. This has already come and gone. Just the legacy remains. Even though it seems that the temple mount is still being trampled on today and set apart from the place where the ark of the covenant once sat, this doesn’t mean that it is in control of the gentile nations. All prophetic roads led to Jerusalem.
First, when this message was given to John, the temple was still in place and the temple was still in use.
Second, The Court that the present temple, at that time, doesn’t stand on leave out, for it will be given over to the Gentiles. To be trampled underfoot for forty two months.
In the previous studies we understood this Court of the Gentiles was going being trampled under foot for a appointed duration of time. Hence the dome of the rock sits on the court mentioned and not the Holy of Holies where the Ark of the Covenant once stood. God shielded the holy of holies location for Himself that it wouldn’t be trampled or not the location that the dome of the rock was to be built. The rock where Abraham was going to offer his son Isaac is where the dome of the rock sits and is where the offerings and sacrifices were presented. The holy of holies stands off from that location. At one point was a threshing floor.
By this we have a understanding of what transpired leading up to the abominations of desolation.
To whom was God speaking about in this passage? The Nation of Israel or the gentile nations? Israel! Leave the rest of the world out of the picture. This hasn’t anything to do with the supposed new world order message being taught.
Forty Two Months of Wilderness
In the previous studies it was determined that one day equals a year.
We know also in the previous studies that the dome of the rock was completed in 688AD and Israel gained control of Jerusalem from the gentiles nations in 1967.
We can do the math both ways, in understanding when this vision was given John solar or Gregorian years were recorded 365.24 days in a year.
Take the 42 months by 365.24 comes to 1278.34
We subtract 1278.34 from 1967 we come to 688.66. The day the Dome of the Rock was complete.
Remember the actual knowledge of this event in the timeline was unknown to us until they were actually fulfilled.
Is this all happen stance? I think not!
God’s protection of the line of Judaea
Vs 1 – And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a womanclothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
The Woman – This woman is not necessarily Mary but the Nation of Israel.
Vs 2 – And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
We all understand who this child is and the difficulties and the birth pains brining him in to the world and this child stepping into his destiny. The Messiah Prince of peace.
The Crown – The nation, 12 Stars are the tribes of Israel.
Vs 3 – And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
This dragon represents Satan, the kingdoms and rulers of his influence.
Vs 4 – And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Popularly understood as Satan caused one third of the angels of heaven to fall. However the picture painted is to a given purpose of the third of the stars or the third part of the stars to thwart the birth of the Messiah. Also note that the Woman could also represent the constellation Virgo(Virgin). During the time of Christs birth there were events taking place surrounding this constellation which got the magi’s attention and to follow His star. Possibly more in another study.
Satan trying to abort God’s plan of redemption, before, during and after the Messiah’s entry.
Vs 5 – And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
She gave birth to the King of kings and the Lord of lords, to rule with a rod of iron. The Son was caught up to His Father; the resurrection.
Revelations 19:13 – 16;
Vs 13 – And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Vs 14 – And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Vs 15 – And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Vs 16 – And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Vs 6 – And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
The woman fled into the wilderness, Most will look at the Church as separate from Israel. However, Not only the Jews fled this tribulation period, the church was continually being scattered from the region as well. Christians were worshiping in Jerusalem at this time, as well as the Jews. They both found a place in this wilderness of protection. We will find more about this in the next teaching, the two olive trees, the two candle sticks, and the two keepers of the Testaments.
Since most of the Church in the New Testament were Jewish and the Gentiles were added into the mix where they were accepted. This gives us one of the first clues that the Church plays a part in the twelve tribes. In taking this passage into context; this is talking about the nation and the people in the nation. I look at this woman as the Bride of Christ, not just Christians but Jews as well. The mainstream Christian church world has become so self centered and thinks it’s all about them.
The Jews worship Jesus as Lord and the Christians worship Jesus as the Son of God.
In the Old Testament the Lord always referred to Israel as His bride, faithful to start out with? Maybe. And then, not so much leading to the first exile, and then a rocky relationship afterward. The bride is also known as the Church. Again we are talking about one bride and one Nation housing 12 Tribes in a region.
Again, I will be getting into the One Church at a later time. The two shall become as one. The two witnesses, the two olive branches, the two candle sticks.
Likewise, later in another study we will find that there were two nations that Judaea split into: the 10 tribes of the north, Israel: the House of Joseph or Ephraim and the three tribes of the south, House of Judah. The tribe of Levi was mixed into both nations. Those 10 tribes were eventually dispersed to the ends of the earth. Judah remained in Jerusalem then exiled to Babylon and returned. Who is in the Nation of Israel today is actually the House of Judah.
Describing the Woman
Revelation 12:1 presents a woman as having a crown of 12 stars, who is clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet.
We understand the imagery of what the crown and twelve stars represents, the tribes of Israel, what about clothed with the sun?
Malachi 4:2 & 3;
Vs 2 – But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Sun of Righteousness is accepted as Jesus, but more importantly His Rightness we are clothed in. He is our garment of Righteousness.
Vs 3 – And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
What is the woman treading on? What is under her feet. The wicked, and ashes under her feet, and standing on the moon in Revelations 12:1?
Preserved in the wilderness
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
What event lead up to this second exile? What is different about this exile which makes it unlike the first one? This second one, by the same form of the beast found in Daniel, they were driven out because of a great tribulation and satan. Up until 688AD the Jews and Christians were still able to worship in Jerusalem in one form or another. At this point they were given the options to turn to Islam or die when the conquering Israel and her Capital Jerusalem.
The Jews had to flee into the wilderness to preserve the line of Judah. God prepared a place of preservation by being dispersed through out the world.
Matthew 24:15-18, read the whole chapter.
Vs 15 – When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
We covered this in one of the previous a study I posted, we have a exact time when this happened by knowing just when the abomination of desolation took its form. And this lived up to Matthew chapter 24 tribulation events.
Vs 16 – Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains:
Vs 17 – Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Vs 18 — Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Now an event that marks the end of the timeline
Revelation 12:6; last part of verse.
That they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Who is her? The fore mentioned woman; Israel. She will be taken care of, up to so many days.
What event could have taken place to have cause this preservation to end? Mind you, Judaea was dispersed through out the earth, but mostly European region. The United States of America being one of the other parts of the world. More on this in another study. The 10 tribes of Israel.
Through the many centuries the Jews have been; beaten, killed, enslaved, starved out, from the time of Egypt up until a certain time in history. On the run from place to place. They are Survivors as the Lord promised.
Just as there was one event that caused the woman to run for her life into the wilderness, there was another event that caused the woman to return from her exile from their land for her survival.
With these two events, there wasn’t t anything like it on record of any event in Jewish history than the last and final event, this was unimaginable.
In the name of purity
I have a saying: “You don’t have to like someone to love them, not liking them is okay, because you are not like them. However, unconditional love is what most of us slip up on. Hate is the absence of love. Lust and the greed for power is not found in Love.
In 1933 Hitler took power of Germany: now you know where I’m going with this.
The Nazi Party was in power till 1945, They wanted the pure race and they wanted their power at every corner of the world. That the extinguishing of Jews being their sole holy cause, and the mass slaughter of Jews was left in their wake of rising to power. Watch the movie Europa Europa, based on true events surrounding a Jewish boy. Sounds like another Islam but another beast ruler. They tried to sell the US on their ideology. Gave a presentation and everything. But it backfired. More in a later study.
This was one of the shortest but the most turbulent impact on Jewish life in present history. More Jewish lives were taken in this twelve year period than any other event in Jewish history combined. A third of the Jewish population were mercilessly extinguished in this twelve year period and about a million of them were children.
Lunatics were considered demon possessed. And this man was. He didn’t have an easy childhood, he was obsessed with the occult.
The Aryan gods were Hindu origin, hence the reversed swastika. He also was familiar with one of the German gods Irwin through the Thule Society.
At this time about 64% of the Jewish population world wide in the were killed when all was said and done. About 6 million Jews lost their lives.
If you want to know the extent of the Nazi’s atrocities go to this web site:
Keep the above in mind when we go further into scripture.
A picture speaks,
Rachel Weeps for Her Children
The Time of Jacob’s Trouble
What could have run through Jeremiah’s mind at the time of hearing this from the Lord, what could have the exiles in Babylon including Daniel have thought about this time of Jacobs Troubles. They knew that something was coming their way, but this?
In verse 7 the use of “time” in context of Jacob’s trouble is a short season of events. The use of the word “saved” is to be rescued.
Verse 6 describes a man in labor, with his hand on his loins as a woman in travail in labor. And all faces turned pale. I can’t even come close in my understanding what they were going through. Faces in shock, cold, naked and hungry. I’m sure a feeling of abandonment from their God was going through their minds as well.
It’s not for us to know why He allows such a thing to happen, its not because He willed it to happen. The ship has been set to sail, course is set and must continue through the storms, the tempests and the strong winds holding us back from our destinations. Just as Job, we need to continue to trust in God and keep the course set out ahead of us.
In referencing the above snippet from the JTA website, the article I attached; the Nazis had almost 7 thousand Jews undress to their nakedness and were carted off to be burned alive. And the men were in travail by covering their naked parts with their hands.
Verse 7 – 9 explains the Jews bonds being broken and that no one will serve them selves on the people of Judaea.
The Lord will be their God and David their King. The Star of David on Israels flag.
Talk about rising from the ashes of tribulation to a new beginning, into an eternal promise from the Lord.
In taking this passage and understanding the reference point. I want to show you a poem written during this time of Jacob’s Troubles.
We have seen this 4th Reich beast rise up and bent on world domination and the destruction of the Jews.
Now we see the a new 5th Reich beast trying to rise up again today, once again bent on the destruction of Jews and even Christians and world domination. The same Beast since the beginning of the times of the Babylonian Empire and even Egypt, up this day.
Ezekiel 37: 1 – 14
The valley of dry bones reassembled
Now back to Revelation 12:6;
That they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
The 1260 Days
Keeping in mind that at the time of this vision was given to John, the world was in the Solar years time scale. As we learned earlier that one day equals a year in the Lord’s reference to days;
The Nation of Israel was was re-established in 1948, Jerusalem was reclaimed in 1967:
Take 1260 from 1948 we get 688 A.D.. The dome of the rock!
These 1260 years given in John’s vision by Jesus, was the wilderness exile up until their re-possession of the land of Israel, from 688AD to 1948AD.
Remember that this timeline was in the prophecy yet to be fulfilled basket until the time of Jacobs troubles and Israel becoming a Nation in 1948.
A little precursor to what’s next!
Now that Israel has returned to their land and is governed by the original inheritors, the Jews.
Who’s Nation was the first to recognize Israel as a nation?
The United States of America
By offering recognition and support, the USA taking their part in Bible prophecy like a good little watchman. When Israel declared themselves as an independent nation, the USA stepped in under Truman, to recognize Israel, eleven minutes after Israel’s declaration as a country.
Decades later another President steps in and declares Jerusalem as the Capital and moves the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Once again fulfilling prophecy.
At the time the Jews declared themselves a nation, making Jerusalem the Capital was not an option because they didn’t have control until 1967, and because of regional unrest, not one country wanted to touch Jerusalem as the Capital, only in word but not in deed. Until December, 6th 2017. The Sun, The Moon & The Stars
In doing so, Zachariah’s prophecy was fulfilled in chapter one verse 1 – 17, and Zachariah 8:3:
The United States played a very important role in the nation of Israel, Britain may have had to hand the land title back over to the Jews after much encouragement from the United States, They had their part as well. But not like the USA. A law to move the the US embassy and recognizing Jerusalem has been in the US law books since 1995, however not one President had the cohones to declare it and carry it out until 2017.
There is such a loving BOND with the Nation of Israel and the USA! A part of the same eternal family of God. The New Testament Church was born in Jerusalem. I pray that it never ends. Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.
Zachariah 8:3 – Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain.
Now that we have read Jeremiah chapter 30 about Jacob’s Troubles, we need to read Jeremiah 31 about the watchman role. Once I understood what chapter 30 was referring to, I began to weep reading chapter 31. One chapter was of sorrow and hope and the other chapter of joy.
For there shall be a day, that the watchmen upon the mount Ephraim shall cry, Arise ye, and let us go up to Zion unto the LORD our God.
Watchmen, literally the protector.
Ephraim; a fruitful vine, the chief protector tribes of Judaea, the Northern Tribe.
Revelation 13:18 – Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understandingcount the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
First of all this use of wisdom in this Greek word is sophia, this form of wisdom is used to solve a problem with reason or deduction, investigative skills, by solving a mystery or riddle, something that is not obvious and out front. Philosophy comes from this form of sophia that is used.
Count means to sum up by adding, in math or reason, used as a voting system by adding a colored stone in a urn that symbolizes a sum a a collected choice.
In joining wisdom with understanding, literally using the mind, thinking with intellect to conclude something.
In understanding how this part of the verse should be understood and read, is “with wisdom, here comes a riddle or mystery to be solved”. Not a mathematical equation.
After this post there will be no more mystery.
It is important to know when there is a solving of mathematical problems or a Philosophical riddle, there is a difference. This verse makes it very clear that there is no math involved to clear up the sum of all things. It is a mystery of a deeper meaning. A decision needs to be made. Let numbers be numbers and let wisdom be wisdom. However one can have a metaphorical meaning to the other.
Now we need to understand what this “number” represents. Is this a complex math or a complex meaning. Nothing complex about it if we understand what this number actually resembles.
What does this number represent?
In the Greek this word is arithmos, we need to understand if this number represents people it translates to a multitude. When used in this manner changes the whole perspective of what this passage is being referenced to.
This passage could only be translated one of two ways, if a numbering system is used then its refering to a number. If describing a number of people then multitude is used then there is no number calculation needed, but a multitude, (in the context of this passage keep in mind what the flood represented?)
So if the “mark 666” is actually a number then it’s simple addition, if it is not then it’s simple wisdom.
This passage should read, “Here is a riddle, (problem or mystery) to be understood, determine (decide to be counted(what color of pebble will be used that represents your choice) the multitude of the beast: for it is a multitude of a man”.
Or will it just the number value?
We talked about there being only two marks in the previous study and what a mark represents.
So now we understand that the number of this mark is not going to be a number but something else, and we will find this out shortly.
Since we know that the Beast is Islam in previous studies, the son of perdition is Muhammad and the multitude are his followers then we need to conclude that the multitude is Islam.
But is it a number?
First of all, we had to understand that this mark was a seal, or a sign.
Will a follower of Islam take on such a mark under the skin or tattooed on the surface of the skin. Well, I don’t think so. In knowing Islam they will never make a image of Muhammad and we have seen in France how Islamist reacts to this. They will not be tattooed by tradition. So is this tracking system be allowed under the Islamic flag? Not!
So we have to conclude it’s something that rests on the arm or the forehead and not made into a permanent mark on the skin. I covered this previously in part one.
Now lets look at what is shown in the Vaticanus codex from 350AD of this passage in question, keeping in mind that this comes from a careful copy of a copy of the original that were handed down copies of the one written by Johns penmanship.
This familularity was discovered by Walid Shoebat, who was a PLO Terrorist now a Christian evangelist. His web site is by his last name .com.
Let’s take a good look at what this 666 looks like in the greek Codex?
I would like to point out, you wont find this in a Greek interlinier, its been doctored to clarify the assumed number. Chi xi Stigma is 666.
The lower case Greek letters for Chi Xi Sigma are as follows:
Below: the condensed Islamic creed, shown to the right, literally means (reading right to left): “In the Name of Allah,” followed by the symbol of crossed swords. Please remember those marks mentioned earlier. One of characters was in the form of an “X” which in this case is the crossed swords. Keeping in mind where this mark was to rest on the body. This is in the Hebrew is one of the Tav progressions, a mark?
Then observe what the Greek text for 666 (shown to the right) looks like the Islamic creed except that the word, “Allah,” is presented vertically, with the crossed swords to the left of it.
Now in looking at the above image shows like a puzzle that needs to be rearranged to fit the word for Allah, when the repositioning is done.
Ask your self? Is it possible that the Apostle John, while receiving his divine revelation, did not see Greek letters, but instead was supernaturally shown Arabic words and an Islamic symbol, which he then faithfully recorded? Remember that this was presented as a problem to be solved as riddle.
On the Zola Levitt program, Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist now Christian evangelist, said that when he saw the Greek symbol that is translated in the Bible as 666, he immediately read it as the Arabic character “Bismillah” (some spell Bismilla) which means “in the name of Allah.” (Though it looks more like the character for “Allah”).
This is a short YouTube video of Walid Shoebat explaining his finding.
Coincidence? I don’t think so! There are some that tries to refute this argument. However they have no reasonable explanation to their claim other than the same old what we have been hearing for decades.
In the beginning, after questioning the last days narrative, with some research, this is what I was able to came up with. These are not necessarily new findings. I can not take any credit nor do I need any.
Using this blog as a platform of what the Holy Spirt lead me in understanding and what I was questioning. I felt I needed to share and document what I was finding.
I may add more to this post at a later time or do edits on spelling, grammar or sentence structures. If I have any new findings I will post them in a different post.
Much of my study comes from notes I’ve been compiling from different sources, points and outlines.
As was mentioned in a previous post, I will not get too much into the traditional narratives out there. If we have been in the church circulation we all grew up with them. As we maybe finding out, all is not what it seems when we stick to explaining the prophetic events using scripture and not loose speculation. An opinion is mans carnal understanding. Flesh likes to fill in the blanks when it fails to find what right answer, such a Darwinism. We need the deduction of the famed Sherlock Holmes, looking for the clues that actually fits all the pieces of a puzzle, and not jury rigged.
Just as there are Heaven’s sevens, there are Heaven’s sixes. After all, God created mankind on the sixth day, did He not? However the journey we are to undertake with this study, is this, there are always Satans counterfeits, just as we learned in the previous post study about the antichrist and the son of perdition we are going to discover another counterfeit; Satan’s Sixes.
Nothing has had more prolific meaning and misunderstanding than the this unholy mark. This has been referred to as technology, since the claim in the last days knowledge will increase, I’ve mentioned what this is actually referencing in my first post, To and Fro, on these series topics.
So now we have this technological marvel that can track and record all our comings and going, not being able to purchase or sell, products are marked with this mark of the beast. Some claim that this piece of tech keeping track us us lies somewhere in a secure location, and it’s even named The Beast. Makes for a great Christian Syfy story.
Remember when I said that things are not what they appear, what we have seen, appears to promote fear. It’s a smoke screen to keep us from the knowing what is true. There is nothing like using fear to cloud sound judgement.
So in the last days we have a mark to be reckoned with. We’ll all have to be marked with a mark, or some may refer to as being chipped. Implanted under or on the hand or forehead to keep track of our so-called freedoms. We’ll chip away at this false narrative.
This technology has been already available for some time and is waiting to be implemented on a full scale. Oh my, the drama.
What’s the number of this mark?
Scripture tells us this unholy value is 666, the sign of man.
I came from one of the Bible Belt’s of Oregon, Grants Pass. When the cashless system was first being implemented, a few clerks was expressing and showing concern that there were not enough cash exchanging hands, most transactions were all digital bank card or VISA transactions.
Oh, did I mention VISA? I wont get in to this one. It’s one of those misleading 6’s.
I remember a beautiful house on a hill on one of our streets that had a unkept yard and was vacant for some time. Possibly even today, I don’t know, however, even though this house is in a prime area next to the hospital, the house number was 666.
Why are we afraid of a number?
Sounds a bit cultish. This is where I’ve learned to follow the check in my spirit and search for what is true and liberating.
What if we can ask ourselves, is this mark not as it seems? As I said before, God wont mind!
Now lets break the bread of scripture.
V14 – And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
We understood this passage from our study about the son of perdition and his followers in a previous post, Denying the Son of the Father.
V15 – And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
1. Power to give life: the literal translation is to breath life into the image of the beast. Give it momentum.
2. This image of the beast, literally is a likeness or representation of an image to a man to be worshiped. This image is very important to understand, its not an actual image of this man, since the actual likeness of this man is not to be worship his worshipers, but this is an icon, symbol or mark. In one of the previous posts we learned who this man, the son of perdition was.
We Christians have a cross or a fish as a image for the gospel message of our Savior, we wear them as a symbol of who we identify with. Think about it. It’s not an idol per-say, unless you put trust in the object itself, but a image icon of a message.
Image of the beast should speak, literally ; to make utterances of a message, preach. This was the message of this beast to the multitudes from a messenger Muhammed.
Since a symbol or icon can’t actually speak, there is a message behind it’s meaning.
Those who do not bow down and worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Due to the benefit of their own life, they were forced to worship this image.
The Holy Roman Empire was also guilty of this, this was a horn of another beast. More in another study.
v16 – And he causeth all, both small and great, — rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Since we have an understanding of who this Beast is, Islam, when reading the context of this passage we have to understand that Islam is being referenced and not the new world order. So that we should take this following verse into consideration when we read on about the mark.
V17 – And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
More later on this verse.
V18 – -Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understandingcount the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
I’m a marked man for life life unto death. We all carry one of these marks for life. What mark shall it be? We have only two available.
Before we understand what’s in a mark, we have to understand how it is used in scripture.
First of all this Greek definition of this mark is; to stamp or a imprint an image or symbol on something. Such as on a coin, a flag, a tattoo, we wear badges. It is also a seal. We wear crosses close to our hearts, do we not? It’s not a device of mans invention.
Let’s find out about some marks in scripture.
And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill — him.
Now in understanding the background and foreground of this passage;
Cain was skimping on his offering to the Lord. As for Abel, God found favor with his offerings. Cain’s jealousy solved his problem by killing Abel and buried him. God Confronted Cain that Abel’s blood crying out from the ground. The Lord’s curse to Cain was, since Abel’s blood was crying out from the ground, that very ground will not yield its produce to Cain. God set a mark on Cain that no one will retaliate on him for slaying Abel, under penalty of a sevenfold vengeance from God.
What was the purpose of this mark? It was God’s way of saying hands off! I find it funny that many will look at this mark as a bad thing. This mark actually will save his life. He didn’t receive the mark because of the bad he did, he received it as a sign of God’s protection.
Side Thought: We received such a mark that say’s, hands off Satan. Were under God’s protection. Doesn’t mean we wont be tested. We just belong to God and Satan shouldn’t overstep his boundaries.
It sickens me how the Church has used this mark as a license to point the finger at those who do not fit their own standards of what is right and wrong. Their skin is black and that skin color was the mark of Cain, or they deviate from what they think was a standard to live up to, the mark of Cain is upon them. I don’t think Cain was one of those deviants. More fake Church narratives. I look at this mark as a good sign for what is to come.
Romans 3:23: “All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God”.
We all have missed the mark that God has laid out for us.
There is some speculation to what this mark of Cain was. I believe this was a visible physical sign or mark placed on him. Hebrew literature claims this to be the Taw.
By the way, there is a letter in the ancient Hebrew alphabet that represents this mark. Which was used to mark out boarders.
An interesting point; this symbol was used in other alphabets in different language cultures. Don’t go and burn your crosses. This mark has been used heavily in ancient pagan societies and rituals. It was used in ancient consecration baptisms rituals by marking a cross or taw on the forehead. It was also know as a sign of life.
In the transgressions of Israel by adopting pagan practices, the Asherah Poles were a tree that was groomed to make the dominant branches reach out to the side as arms extending outward.
The Egyptian cross is another pagan symbol of the cross.
The left facing swastika was a pagan symbol of the a form of this cross and it was a sign of good luck. The right facing or inverted form became unpopular symbolizing the Nazis.
This Taw was used before the crucifixion of the Christ. However, I want to go over later about the progression of this letter “Taw” in the Hebrew alphabet. It’s a amazing to understand its transformation into the modern Hebrew Tav. More later.
There is another form of a cross similar to the Jerusalem Cross found in Aret Mayan Ruins Palenque Mexico. City was first occupied 100BC. Deserted about 700AD. The is called The Temple of the Cross (before the cross).
More biblical marks used, now on the forehead:
And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:
The context of this passage is a vision of Ezekiel about the sins of the people of Israel and how the Lord was going to categorize them.
He set a mark upon the forehead of those who were protected from the sword, those who were grieved over the sins of the people, and the others were given over to the sword.
This was a vision that was about to be fulfilled at the pointed time.
This mark was a spiritual mark to spare a remnant from the sword. If He didn’t then this blog progression wouldn’t have been necessary.
We find in 2nd Chronicles 36:11-16 & 17,18 was the fulfillment of this vision.
Vs 11-16 was those where were not spared from the sword, and v17 & 18 those who were marked with a spiritual mark to be spared and brought to Babylon.
New Covenant marks
II Corinthians 1:22 & 23
Now he which establisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
This is a form of seal, literally; used as a signet or signature, a mark. Signed on the dotted line of a contract per-say. The Holy Spirit is a part of the pledge transaction we made with an agreement. Christ’s covenant with those who received Him.
This form of seal is also is explained in;
Ephesians 1:13-15 – Sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise.
Ephesians 4:30 – Sealed unto the redemption.
II Timothy 2:19 – Having this seal the Lord knows whose are His.
We are marked or sealed to the end! We have His signature stamped on our hearts. Only He sees who’s His. This isn’t a mark for others to point the finger at. Only He can identify it. And He knows who isn’t. It’s not the crosses around our necks. And it’s a mark of your persuasion.
The Makings of a Mark
Now, how is this pysical representation of a spiritual mark could be worn in Revelation 13:16.
“X” marks the spot.
Revelation 13: 16-18:
Vs 16 – And he causeth all, both small and great, — rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: Vs 17 – And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Vs 18 – Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understandingcount the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
In order to understand to whom this mark of the beast is for, where it is directed, and what this mark is. It’s not the whole wide world, only a region of the world controlled or influenced by this beast. This is the first clue. It’s not a new world order even though this beast wants to take over the world. This is only for those whom it was directed and how it affects Jerusalem and the regions around her. More about her at a later time. Stay tuned!
Oh No! Now we can’t buy or sell with out it! What am I to do if I refuse this mark?
Well if we are talking about what’s on the Christian SyFy Network, we as marked believers of Christ, are knee deep into it. We use this supposed mark to buy and sell already. Using our plastic with numbers on it and making online transactions. Now we can take this a step further and embed a chip under the skin as a form of identity, SSN, bank account and vaccination status. Really!?
Satans counterfeit mark
This mark has been around since 688AD, or ever since the Muhammad affect on the region. Better clue, it has been shown to us during the authoring of the book of Revelation.
Revelation 13:16 & 17 has to do with the 7th & 8th beast Islam and the affects, they controlled regions including Israel and Jerusalem and not necessarily all Christendom or the whole wide world order. What’s spoken about Jerusalem, stays in Jerusalem. Not the whole wide world.
So WHO can’t buy or sell?
Now that we are slowly becoming familiar with what this traditional mark of the beast is not! How can we now better understand what this passage is referencing.
Before this is fully understood, we need to structure verse 16 – 18 to correctly to read what is true to the Greek.
Again: Revelation 13
Vs16 – And he causeth all, both small and great, — rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
What is “he” referring to? The Beast!
“He” actually being an “it”.
Who will receive this mark? Those who worship the Beast. Islam.
Now where is “X” going to mark the spot? The right hand or the forehead. The “in” is “out” now “upon”. The greek word use of “in” is also used as “on” or “upon” in scriptures.
V17 – And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his (its) name.
The use of this word “man” is – a someone, who is not identified, I like to think of a mystery man. Not used as mankind as a whole.
Not able to transact by due to a custom or decree associated with the for-mentioned name. Not able to do anything with out the badge of servitude.
Have we heard of the phrase, “it’s a free country” or “free commerce”? In my opinion this inability to make a transaction with out this mark is metaphorically and not literally implied, these freedoms, among other freedoms are taken away from the people by this decree of servitude.
Not able to buy or sell; we will not buy from you, we will not sell to you with out the badge of servitude you have to be in our likeness. Is this another way of looking at it?
First of all, the use of “or” was pointed out to me and is not the correct usage in the structure to form this verse. Just as “in” or “out” in the previous comment. In my usage of a interlinear reference this us of “or” is not completely in line with the codex’s in the translations. It seems that they liked to add an implication to it.
I have used the Codex Sinaiticus to make a distinction between usage of this word. First of all the use of this character appears as “is” in verse 18. So are we to use this character as-is?
This “or” that? Well, “then”.
When the use of “or” in this passage should have not been, then this creates a progression and not options given.
So then, the choices or options given in this instance is not implied here.
This should read:
The mark is the name of the beast; the number is the name of he/himself.
Or “The mark is the name of the beast is the number of his name”.
Moving on to the next part of this verse:
Vs 18 – Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understandingcount the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
I’m going to break up this verse into several parts:
Wisdom – I will be getting a little more in-depth on the use of wisdom later in the study.
Count – or sum up the number or calculate with reason and intellect using wisdom as mentioned in the verse.
This number – we will get to what this number actually signifies.
The man – The number of this man (a man), identifies and associates this mystery man as mentioned before; a mankind, the difference between God and a Man.
The number of this man is 666;
So, does this number progression sum to a number value, a image, or a mark? Again, as I made a remark previously in a prior post about the antichrist; an animal, symbol or spiritual? More later.
Now understanding where a physical representation of a spiritual mark or meaning is placed.
More examples of a mark.
Ezekiel 13:9 – And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorialbetween thine eyes, that the LORD’s law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
The context of this passage from verse 4-on is the remembrance of the Passover, the first fruits from the womb of the year or the first month you shall presented as a remembrance of the peoples deliverance from their captivity and the plague.
There shall be placed on the hand as a sign of the Lord’s strong hand of deliverance, and a memorial between the eyes that the law of the Lord will be in your mouth.
Deuteronomy 6:8 – And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
The context of this passage is a representation by symbol, this is to be a remembrance of Israel’s deliverance from captivity and The Lord’s Law will always be present in our minds to be remembered.
How this ordinance is represented and displayed upto this day is called a Tefillin.
We see that the frontlet Tefillin is placed on the forehead and the Hand Tefillin is tied on the left arm with a strap that leads to and wrapped around the left hand and the middle finger.
Deuteronomy 11:18 – Therefore shall ye lay up — these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind — them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontletsbetween your eyes.
A sign of a mark, made to the flesh and a mark made to the heart:
Genesis 17:10 & 11
This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and — you and — thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. And ye shall circumcise — the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant between me and — you.
Circumcision is a physical mark of the covenant made between the Lord and Abraham and his male descendants. The “token” is literally a mark or a sign.
The New Covenant Circumcision
Romans 2:28 & 29;
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
There is a distinction of a mark made in the flesh or of the heart. Who we are, is identified by the heart and not necessarily by the flesh.
As promised before in this post I was going to explain the “Tav or Taw” progression in the Hebrew alphabet. Make reference to the charts below in referencing the Hebrew letter.
Exodus 12:12-13, 23
Vs 12 – For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and — beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
Vs 13 – And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: — and when I see — the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
Vs 23 – For the LORD will pass through to smite — the Egyptians; and when he seeth — the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.
The Seal of the New Covenant
“Do not work for the food that perishes, but for the food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you. For on Him, the Father has set His seal.” John 6:27
On Jesus the Father set his seal for the new promise and covenant with us.
Ephesians 1:11-14 “In Him we have obtained an inheritance…you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in Him, were sealed with the promised spirit, the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of His glory.”
We partake of that same seal with the promised Holy Spirit.
The Blood of Jesus was set over the door posts of our hearts that we allowed Him to enter, as a sign of and seal of our redemption.
Revelation 3:20 – Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Now that we understand how God knows his own, which is an internal mark.
How many of us have long waited for the appearance of this messenger of darkness, Antichrist son of perdition?
I have seen many secular and Christian movies on this arrival. I think more so than the actual advent of Jesus Christ.
This part of the study I will try to the best of my understanding make clear who this mystery man could be.
As in one of my previous posts I have listed a few claimed candidates through my own per personal history.
Ronald Reagan’s name adds up to that ungodly number, I heard Clinton was going to be and his wife during her run was the jezebel witch whore of babylon, the Bush duo was going to start the movement, and a few I’m sure Obama is, the POPE now is one of the biggest candidates because of his all inclusiveness philosophy trying to bring peace in the Middle East. And now President Trump was because of the peace pact deal concerning Israel with Palestine and the Arab nations with the Abraham accord. I may try to go over this at a later time. It’s either one or the other folks, or none at all!
After a few failed attempts of Christ’s supposed re-entry, I was left with a few questions. There was at least a couple second advents during my life time as well.
I went over this somewhat in one of my previous posts.
Who is the personified long awaited supper being, satan incarnate going to arrive, The Antichrist. I know I’ve had my questions when this servant of the beast will come into view. Since we the church have long been awaiting this since its inception. That is since Christ’s first advent.
Are we still waiting for that 7 year tribulation? Already covered.
Christ did make mention of this presence during his time one earth? Absolutely.
Who are we looking for and what are we expected to find?
Will He(or her) depending on your persuasion, be in the form of man or woman, I even heard this being was going to be a gay man (I will cover later), and of Jewish decent. Will he or it arrive during the 7 year tribulation, rule the world, head the new world order and proclaim himself the messiah god? The list goes on. Another great lie!
Who this entity was supposed to be regarding Israel and Jerusalem and the Temple Mount? I have already made my stand on this understanding on what’s standing on the Temple Mount today.
Many of us already know the narratives that are being taught on this supposed event to yet take place. I will try to save your and my time going over this since what actually will take place does not at all support the traditionally taught narrative.
Remember way back when, about a movement called, WWJD? And how we should stop and think about our next step should be before we should take it?
How about if we start a new movement called WWJS, What Would Jesus Say!
Let’s start this by taking a narrative from His own mouth.
When ye therefore shall see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
I covered this in of the previous posts, “the 7th Week”.
What was standing or stands at the temple mound? A Animal, Symbol or Spiritual?
What stands there this day? Well a disgusting thing that makes the Temple Mount unusable.
Now we have to ask ourselves, why is this abominable marvel standing there? Will get to that later.
Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God the Father of Heaven.
Keep this in mind as we read on.
THE ANTICHRIST A MAN OR A MOVEMENT?
Want some meat? Show me the beef, not the other white meat.
I’m going to list some scripture marking this antichrist’s arrival:
They are among us!
1 John 2:18;
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichristshall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
I’m going to bring out 4 points in breaking down this passage:
1. Little children, it is the last time:
John is referencing to the little children as those who are listening were not very mature in understanding. Referring to the last days. I’m sure they were following some of the same false misperceptions we’re experiencing today.
Read Matthew 24:4&5, 23&24, my own paraphrase;
Many will come in My Name and deceive many, and say, “there He is, there He goes”, ops there He is not! How many times have we experience this in our life time. He’s coming, but didn’t show. However, In the same context of scripture mentions a false christ and prophet.
2. And as ye have heard that antichrist shall come;
What was John referring to while using the term antichrist? Antichrist defines literally opposers of Christ and his teachings. (Opposition to Christ comes up later in this teaching and takes place on the Temple Mount.) Who were they? In considering what the church was suffering through at the time, not only the church but it was also the gospel message being persecuted.
3. Even now are there are many antichrists
And by whom were the Christians being persecuted at the time? By the religious order of Judaea only? They were also being persecuted by the Roman order?
Since the largest number of converts were Jews at this time, I would think mostly Rome.
4. Whereby we know that it is the last time.
John is making it clear that they are present in their present up until the last time.
Last time: defines in the greek: ἐσχάτη the last g2078 ὥρα hour g5610; a far off season.
By the way, did we not reference about the end of days in a previous post? In brining up a list of scripture references with antichrist(s) in them, I find that the only references are in John’s letters to the Church. 1st and 2nd letters, not in the Gospel of John and the book of Revelation.
1st John 2:22
WHO is a LIAR but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1st John 4:3
And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit antichrist whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2nd John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who CONFESS NOT THAT JESUS CHRIST IS COME IN THE FLESH. This is a DECEIVER AND AN ANTICHRIST.
So how is this one Antichrist associated with the many?
By implication and not what is true to scripture. In 1st John 4:3 states, for every SPIRIT (breath) that confesses not that Jesus is the Son of God and come in the flesh is of the SPIRIT of antichrist.
It’s an “It”! Not a he or she!
Who or What is this Bad Boy?
2nd Thessalonians 2:1-7 My own paraphrase and more literal translation references.
V1. Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him.
“Coming” literally to be present with, and “gathering together” Literally to assemble. We will be assembled in His presence.
V2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
They were being confused and tossed too and fro from different teachers and doctrines about the second coming of their Savior. Some were saying this was the first advent and others saying there is another advent to come. Paul was saying this day is at hand. Hmmmm, what did he mean by that? Closer than you think? The common understanding of the converted Israelites or Jews, that the first advent was Messiah Ben Joseph, the Second Advent would me Messiah Ben David. More in another study.
V3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
The Apostle Paul was trying to clear up the matter that this second arrival comes after certain events take place: a falling or a rebellion against the gospel message, many will be deceived, by which leads up to the exposing in full view a deviant of truth embodied in man, the son offspring of the father of ruin & death. Perdition literally means destruction.
V3. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
What better way to make this statement than on the Temple Mount where the temple of the Lord once resided. Seems that Satan came in and did some demolition to make way for a renovation project for the real estate scape of his liking in honor of the coming of a man that will present himself as a god\false christ and a messenger of a truth and to be worshipped as a man god, just as Jesus Christ is worshiped as the Son of God the Father and the Holy Spirit as One. This man will ratify different covenant with the many. This man will oppose our Savior by exalting himself above that which is of God, he never proclaimed that Jesus never existed however he opposed that Christ was the Son of God and future princes erects a memorial to this false christ.
Vs 7 – For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
This mystery of iniquity is already at work in this time just as John mentioned in his letters. There will come a point of time that he will be take out of the picture.
Vs 8 – And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
The lie will be bleached out and will fade away when exposed with the flood light of a heart felt love of the glory of the One True Son of the Living God.
Vs 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
This Son of Perdition man who works in the likeness of his father will present with signs and lying wonders. I will be getting into this shortly. I made a brief comment in a previous post.
Vs 10 – And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
They were in great deception and unrighteousness because they have no desire or love of the truth or the Gospel message to be saved, yet they will perish.
Are we talking about rivaling families in the big picture?
Fathers and a sons?
Is the Antichrist a gay Jew?
The one thing that dumbfounded me is how some misconceptions derived that this claimed individual was a gay Jew.
The passage was derived from the following verse;
First of all there is no capitalization in the Hebrew alphabet, this was only accentuated by the translators into the King James Translation.
The Hebrew translation is elōhiym the plural of gods, and not the one true God by itself. If this use was for the One True God this word would have been conjoined to the unique name for God yehōwāh to complete the name of the True God.
nor — the desire of women – keeping in context to the verse and surrounding passages, this is actually making references to the god who is the desire of women. Not men. Many historical references are made to Ishtar, Diana, and this reference in the Hellenistic societies of the Greeks this was looked at at the godess Gaia, in more modern reference the mother godess of nature.
So the use of god of his fathers, was the pagan gods of his fathers.
Now who is this man? Read the surrounding passages, this parallels the son of lawlessness or perdition and his impact to the regions surrounding Jerusalem.
This does go way beyond what was surrounding the Maccabean revolt, at which the sanctuary was only defiled for a short period of time and not the length of time covered in Daniel’s timelines.
I’m going to give another translation of the verse in question:
A side note: I know many claim that our 45th President is the antichrist. However in questioning the logic of such a claim, lack sense. If we take the narrative of the antichrist being a gay Jew, then what does that say about President Trump? I don’t see him as a gay man, only a man with a preference for women and a lover and protector of Israel. Sounds like a King David to me. Just saying.
The Son of Lawlessness
Now who is this man, this son of perdition, will he preform miraculous signs and wonders and create a movement to be reckoned with?
Let’s stop beating around the bush and call a spade a spade;
The man, the son of perdition is Muhammad. Period. The one and only counterfeit christ.
We see alleged works of miracles referenced to this false christ during his time on earth. Most of this can be searched out on the internet.
One of the first alleged miracles that lead up to Muhammad’s birth, this went right along with Mary and Joseph storyline and Jesus’s birth however this wasn’t a virgin birth. His mother was even a Jewess. I wonder how the Islamic faith and understanding Christian faith so well counterfeits the Jewish traditions.
The Father died shortly thereafter. The said claim was that the angel Gabrel appeared to her in a dream and this messenger was the bearer of the news to this mother, that her child will be name Muhammad which means “Highly Praised”.
Sound familiar? A Counterfeit?
Now some claimed Miracles given to this false prophet:
He became invisible: He became invisible to his attempted assassins and was able to escape by passing by them.
The Horse stuck in the sand: another assassin stalks him and a companion and the stalkers horse feet gets stuck in the sand, then the assassin got the horse unstuck and proceeded again and the horses feet gets stuck again and the sand was smoking. The assassin realized this was beyond him and had to go back.
Talking with the Jinn: – a demon spirit: He was instructing the jinni with chapters of the Qur’an, the jinni departed. A Jinn was a genie.
Water flowed from his hands: They Prophet ordered them to look for little water, when they did, he dipped him hands into it and water was flowing from his hands like a fountain.
The night journey (Isra) and ascension (Miraj): This is referred to as the Al Isra wal Miraj. It was the night that the Prophet, under the guidance of archangel Gabriel travelled the Kaaba in Makkah to Masjid al-Aqsa in Jerusalem and then to the sky, to the high realms and to the presence of God. On this journey, he met the Prophet before him including Moses, Jesus and Abraham. He led them in prayer. He reached a very high place where he could hear the pens writing people’s deeds. He saw heaven and hell. And he was elevated, and he met his lord.
The moon split: He was challenged by people around him to split the moon, Allah granted the prophet the ability, he called them all to witness, and the moon split in two. Hence the moon symbol? It was a demonic illusion.
Inanimate objects and animals talked to the prophet: Trees, stones, mountains and sand would greet the Prophet when he passed by. A dead goat gave warning to Muhammad that it’s meat was poisoned by the preparer.
The dead corpse proclaimed the Muhammed as a prophet: A corpse proclaims Muhammad is god’s messenger.
The never ending plate of food: He fed more than a hundred people from very small amount of food.
The prophet could heal injuries: A arrow penetrates a companion’s eye and through the back of his head, he places his hands over his eye and heals him.
The Movement (the wars and rummers of wars)
Shortly after following the collapse of the Roman Empire around 476AD this false christ came to us around 570AD. he started his journey around 632AD and became a force to be reckoned with.
Rome was the restraining force that kept this kind of movement at bay. When it was no longer a viable force then just as many other kingdoms who went by the wayside for another. These are the progressions of the the different Beasts in Daniel vision and the book of Revelation.
Since we have determined at the beginning of the study there is no personified Man Antichrist inbodied by satan.
Now we will cover the movement.
I’m not going to get to much into the serpent of the beast and the seven heads and the what they represent. I’m only going to cover the heads at hand, which represents the 7th & 8th head head of the beast in Revelations. One was wounded and brought back to life. This was Islam which was fought back at one time but has been brought back as at the eight head we have seen today. A new Jihad.
The serpent satan is the influencing power behind the beast.
This passage talks about a dragon, a beast and a man with a mark.
In understanding what this dragon is we need to understand the Grecian metaphorical meaning over the western world depiction.
These dragons or serpents were more familur with their spit or venom preceding from the mouth than with fire. There are many types of these serpent deities even the python. One serpent with may heads you might say. The Pythos, the one who constricts the life out of it’s pray before consuming them. Similar to what’s happening in the nations today. Interesting metaphor.
They were called dragons or serpents for their keen sight and size, not necessarily that they had scales and breathed fire.
We can associate this dragon with the father of lies and the man son in verse 18.
This chapter harbors the beast of the dragon with 7 heads and ten horns and one man.
These different heads of the beast are progressions of empires that has morphed and consolidated at appointed times in history. The 7th & 8th heads are one in the same. When the 7th head of this beast was wounded it was given back it’s life to the 8th head of Islam we see today. The 8th head is only implied since its one and the same at the 7th with new life. All previous heads is a progression of this same beast. More in a later post. The Triune Beast.
We have focused only on the last two heads.
With the old saying, “all’s fare in love and war”.
Vs. 5 – And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. Vs. 6 – And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
These events were just covered that in this post. The 42 months are a time line study. This beast will have its power for a season. This will be covered in a future study. Get your tissues.
Vs. 7 – And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Remember when we were reading about a flood in Daniel 9:26 and Rev. 17:15? A flood or water that overtakes the region, In the 7th Week post. This power was the force to be reckoned with over the people in the areas surrounding Jerusalem. Many have been forced converted or slain in this unholy war on God’s the saints being the Jews and Christians.
Now that we have an understanding of what the antichrist is, who the son of perdition is and who he represents, and the spiritual drive that gives power to this movement.
We can read Matthew chapter 24 and Revelations 13 and surrounding context under better lighting to fully understand the surrounding scripture passages.
This false prophet/christ maybe dead and gone, but his legacy lives on.
The part I didn’t cover was the “mark of the beast”.
I am marked man until the end!
Whose mark will it be?
This is going to rather lengthy. I will try my best to get this complete asap.
Nothing is as it seems or understood by what was traditionally taught for almost 200 years.
Now that we have gotten through the time of the gentiles, the 69 weeks, the 7th final week and now we need to understand another timeline found in:
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
This is a continuation of the seventy weeks with out the previous prophetic 70 weeks breakdowns being involved.
Here in Daniel, gives us the use of days, keeping in mind in pervious references that one day is equivalent to a year.
Still keeping in mind, in this passage which refers to the Temple Mount. We need to understand the start of this timeline which isn’t associated with any of the decrees made by rulers listed previously but a action by one of the Babylonian rulers, not the Persian rulers.
The key here is the first part of the above mentioned verse.
vs 11a – And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away
At what point in Judaea’s history resulted in stopping the daily sacrifices on the Temple Mount? That is Completely!
The time this vision was given at this final visitation of the Lord to Daniel was in 533bc Hebrew years, this was about a future event that was yet to take place.
To start we need to understand some of the history going on to create a timeline of events.
In Ezra 3:2 records the journey Judea back to the homeland after exile. This was the result of the first decree by Cyrus, The initial priestly brigade was Zerubbabel and Joshua and those who was sent to rebuild the temple and the walls of Jerusalem. Keep in mind that the temple was already restored and in use from a earlier decree, however the walls and the rebuilding of Jerusalem was brought to a halt because of the resistance of the surrounding residences.Nehemiah was commissioned with the final decree to take on this endeavor.
There were three periods of time in Judaea’s history that interrupted the offerings at the Temple Mount.
The first was in II Chronicles 28:24-25
And Ahaz gathered together — the vessels of the house of God, and cut in pieces — the vessels of the house of God, and shut up — the doors of the house of the LORD, and he made him altars in every corner of Jerusalem. And in every several city of Judah he made high places to burn incense unto other gods, and provoked to anger — the LORD God of his fathers.
This was before Daniels time and was one of the events that took place that got the God’s sending out his Prophets ball rolling on Judaea’s blasphemies towards their God. This was after the split of the nations.
The other one is the Babylonian captivity in II Chronicles 36:17-21:
Therefore he brought upon them — the king of the Chaldees, who slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, and had no compassion upon young man or maiden, old man, or him that stooped for age: he gave them all into his hand. And all the vessels of the house of God, great and small, and the treasures of the house of the LORD, and the treasures of the king, and of his princes; all these he brought to Babylon. And they burnt — the house of God, and broke down — the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly vessels thereof. And them that had escaped from the sword carried he away to Babylon; where they were servants to him and his sons until the reign of the kingdom of Persia: To fulfill the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed — her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfill threescore and ten years.
This was during Daniel’s time on earth as a young lad.
The other is the Maccabean Revolt brought about a Grecian King defilement of the temple by sacrificing a pig on the alter of the most holy and spreading the blood on all the vessels. This was cleaned up and shortly after was business as usual.
Some claim that this other was the fulfillment of this timeline, however this was far in the future of Daniel. This revolt did provide a break from this evil king however the next event sacked the city once again. So in all the coming and going on the Temple Mount, sacrifices were resumed shortly after. In Daniels vision showed a stop in sacrifices for a extended period time.
The only reference to this Vision in Daniel 12:11 is the Babylonian captivity. We are talking about the exile are we not.
In understanding that the first exile left priests behind and people were coming from all around to make their offerings to the Lord. The second exile cleaned up the remainder of the people to where there was only the poor that remained. The Temple was burned and sacked.
606bc – The Initial Invasion – it’s recorded that Nebuchadnezzar came in initially and took nobles, priests and military, captives away along with Daniel as prisoners.
597bc – The Conquering of Judaea – Second wave of deportation to Babylon from Judah along with Ezekiel.
586bc – The Babylonians destroy Jerusalem and the Temple, Jerusalem’s walls and gates are burned with fire, third wave of Jews deported to Babylon, Babylonian Exile (Galut Bavel) begins, End of Biblical (First Temple) Period, The end of the monarchy in Judaea.
This destruction of the temple took place in 586bc, offerings were continued in spite of the condition of the temple, the people were still arriving and there were the availability of the priests to take the offerings.
We see this continuation in Jeremiah 41:5.
That there came certain from Shechem, from Shiloh, and from Samaria, even fourscore men, having their beards shaven, and their clothes rent, and having cut themselves, with offerings and incense in their hand, to bring them to the house of the LORD.
This took place after the burning of the temple. This was up to 10 months.
There was about a 23 year time span between the burning of the temple to where the remainder inhabitants left in Jerusalem were taken away to Babylon.
In the three and twentieth year of Nebuchadnezzar Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carried away captive of the Jews seven hundred forty and five persons: all the persons were four thousand and six hundred.
Daniel 9:17 confirms the offerings were ceased:
Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and — his supplications, and cause thy face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate, for the Lord’s sake.
In Ezra 3:2&3 confirms the temple was abandoned prior to the Priest Joshua and his brethren return to Jerusalem to start the offerings. The Temple offerings was now in full swing again after the 70 year captivity.
Then stood up Jeshua the son of Jozadak, and his brethren the priests, and Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and his brethren, and built — the altar of the God of Israel, to offer burnt offerings thereon, as it is written in the law of Moses the man of God. And they set the altar upon his bases; for fear was upon them because of the people of those countries: and they offered burnt offerings thereon unto the LORD, even burnt offerings morning and evening.
Now doing the math for this new timeline:
There was three exile progressions from Babylon, the first in 606bc, the second was around 586BC, we take the difference of 23 years when the remnant of Jerusalem was exiled and activity on the temple mound ceased, comes to 583BC. This 23 year difference will explained shortly.
We come up with this figure by taking the following events into account:
In 586BC The Temple in Jerusalem is destroyed by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon on 9th Av in the Hebrew calendar. The third wave of captives (the first one was around 606BC) is taken into exile in Babylon. A 70-year exile had been prophesied by Jeremiah. (Jeremiah 29:10)
However there was a period of time that the sacrifices continued and a following exile was needed.
Jeremiah 41:5 – from Shechem, from Shiloh, and from Samaria,even fourscore men … with offerings and incense in their hand, to bring them to the house of the LORD.
Apparently there was activity as usual amongst the ruins of the temple. Priests were accepting offerings from those who traveled from the surrounding regions.
Jeremiah 52:30 – In the three and twentieth year ofNebuchadnezzar, Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard carried away captive of the Jews seven hundred forty persons.
Taking into account that Nebuchadnezzar ascended to the thrown in 606bc the remaining inhabitants were exiled in the third and final time. It seems kind of ironic that there were three groups of exiles and three groups of returns back to Jerusalem after the 70 years of exile.
So now an additional 23 years are now added from the third exile.
Now we have the start of this new timeline of 583BC that fulfills, the first half of Daniel 12:11
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away.
Now in taking Daniel 12:11b;
And the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
So Between the middle half of this verse:
From: And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away.
To: And the abomination that maketh desolate set up
There: Shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days
From: And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away.
To: And the abomination that maketh desolate set up
There: Shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days
So in taking the year the offerings completely stopped in 583BC
Converting the 1290 Hebrew years mentioned in Daniel to solar years is 1271.5 solar years.
Taking 583BC from 1271.5 solar years comes to 688.5AD.
What took place on the Temple Mount at 688.5AD
We have the start of the construction of the Dome of the Rock in 688AD and it’s completion in 691.5AD.
The above reference date is debated however the acknowledged start of the construction was on 688AD. Other references and the more popular one is 685AD. However you find both start dates references on the internet.
Get a good mental picture. I have mentioned in a previous post about the abomination on the Temple Mount. This defilement is scribed inside this false temple to a false christ and prophet in honor of a false god.
This is the abomination (shiqquts) literal translation, a detestable thing that Daniel’s vision was referring to.
Scribed inside on the temple walls and talking to Jews and Christians:
Overstep not bounds in your religion and of God speak only the truth. The Messiah Jesus, son of Mary is only an apostle of God and His Word, which he conveyed unto Mary and a spirit preceding from him. Believe therefore in God and his apostles and say not three”, and therefore do not say there is a trinity. “It will be better for you. God is only one God. Far be it from his transient majesty that he should have a son.
This passage inscribed on the temple walls sums up to:
There is only the one god (allah), and states there is no Son and no Holy Spirit.
Are we yet to go through a 7 year tribulation, are we going through it right now or has it already happened?
Two of the answers are correct the other one is dead wrong. If we have decernment of what is going on in the world and it’s, especially in the middle east and Israel and even here in the West and the free world we will come to the conclusion that it’s already been happening. Is this something new? Is persecution new to God’s People?
Look at the events in history about the Coptic Christians, the Armenians and Jews being massacred by the millions either by one of the Ottomans and Islamic Jihad Crusade raids, or Hitlers purification holy war. The Jews were thrown in to the mix of the so called Holy Roman sanctions of slaughter. They got Jerusalem back but at what price. Only to loose it again.
The tribulation of the church started with Steven?
We can start with the first martyr of the Church after Christ’s crusifiction, Steven was proclaiming the good news and he was stoned for it, he also was confronting the Pharisees for their hypocracy. Did they think that was going to stop the gospel message? Well those who were playing the judge and jury and passed sentance on stoning Steven? Even those the Jews who disbelieved in the gospel message, are going to be persecuted as well. Christians and Jews has a symbiotic relationship when it comes to persecution. What affects the Christians affects Jewish people as well. We have seen this through out history. The crusades was a prime example of persecution as well. Romantically they were driving back the Muslims occupation of the Holy Land, however the Jews got it as worse than the Muslims if not more. To a point the Muslims were harboring Jews against persecution.
When I first became familiar with this tribulation narrative as some far off event that is yet to take place, that will spare the church through a hardship. However I started to notice this has been well under way for some time. Today in our beloved free world we’ve experianced churches being burned, crosses being removed or burned, statues of Jesus being toppled, believers being slaughtered. I never thought that this would ever come this close to home. Radicals trying to erase faith and history and trying to make history what it’s not. This is not anything new. The Communist & Islamic controled countries started this form of jihad wether it’s a form of an atheist religion or a Islamic religion. This has not changed since the begining of the Gospel message. We are not under anything unique in this age.
So can we now question the 7 year tribulation narrative of the end times? Go ahead, God wont mind.
In my previous blog of the 69 weeks in the book of Daniel we were working with a timeline that was intended for Judaea and the city of Jerusalem and not necessarily the church per-say, up unto the cross. However it seems that what affects the one will affect the other.
This timeline going forward is different from the 69 weeks and this will become clear in the going forward in this study.
Let’s do a break down the remainder final 7th Week part of this passage:
There are several points listed with explanations. Make note that these are my own personal commentaries. This is how I understand this passage. Broken up into points.
1. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
The 62 weeks and including the 7 week rebuilding of Jerusalem to the Messiah. The Messiah will be taken away not for His own benefit. The Messiah came to redeem the world and not himself. And will be taken from the earth realm into the Heavenly’s.
2. And the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;
Another and different prince will arise to destroy Jerusalem, was Titus this prince around 90AD? Or was this prince of a another ungodly Daniel beast kingdom to carry out this act. The Islamic Jihad has done this just this as well. As Christ was the prince for a heavenly kingdom this other prince was of a kingdom of a different kind. I believe that this prince was yet to come or took another face of an old one. Even though Titus sacked Jerusalem and made rubble of the temple. This passage talks about a defiler yet to come that makes war on the people.
3. and the end thereof shall be with a flood,
This is a flood of people or foreigners that speak a different language, a gentile nation.
Revelations 17:15 – And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
The whore has already arrive and alive and well this day. She take everyone who she can seduce into her fornications. This whore occupies the regions that surrounds Jerusalem.
4. And unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Some claim that this references is a war yet to come some time in our future, however taking Jesus’s reference to the passage in Daniel and taking His full message in context, this is a ongoing war with this prince. This prince is the entity that is given power from the beast mentioned in Daniel and Revelations, this is the false christ and prophet. The literal translation for determined wether this is figurative or not, is to wound by making a sacrifice unacceptable to the Lord. The context of this is talking about a war event that leaves the temple mound ruined by wounding, making it unacceptable for sacrifices.
5. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
This prince will will make a covenant with these many (vs 26 the flood of people)
A covenant ratifying a promise or agreement with these many for this one week period. We are talking about the same week referencing this remaining week (sabua or shavua, the masculine noun of seven) of the 70 weeks . At this point the final remaining part of the timeline from the Messiah being cut off. This should read, “during the week”. As part of the Daniel timeline.
6. And in the midst of the weekhe shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,
Around the middle of this week something will cause the sacrifices and offerings to cease.
7. And for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate,
On the parameter or a wing or extension of a abomination will make it desolate or unusable
8. Even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Until the completion of a covenant, and that which is purposed will be poured out on that which makes it unusable.
The Prince Messiah vs the prince? This is the question. Could this prince be a father of a false faith, one of the horns of the beasts referred to in previous scriptures. Could there have been a false prophet to present this false faith.
Now lets get started on the 7th final week.
In understanding what’s in a day and how many of them there are in a year. we have to understand what’s in a week, a sabbath week. and how this relates to the weeks in Daniel’s timeline. One day equals a prophetic 360 days in a year. These sabbaths seasons are addressed in Leviticus.
When using the hebrew word for 7 (sabua or shavua) to it self it represents a 7th day, when this word is used with hebrew shavuim which literally means sevens, plural masculine it is used as a multiples of seven that lead up to a Jubilee year. we are talking a multiple of sabbath years.
And the Lord spake unto Moses on Mt Sinai saying, Speak unto the Children of Israel and say unto them, “When ye come into the land which I will give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the Lord.
Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; but in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest onto the land, a sabbath for the Lord: thou shalt neither sow thy field, or prune thy vineyard. That which groweth of its own accord of thy harvest thou shalt not reap, neither gather the grapes of thy vine undressed: for it is a year of rest unto the land. And the sabbath of the land shall be meat for you; for thee, and for thy servant, and for thy maid, and for thy hired servant, and for thy stranger that sojourneth with thee,”
v7, “And for thy cattle, and for the beast that are in thy land, shall all the increase thereof be meat.
And thou shalt”, thou shalt, “number seven sabbaths of years”.
Seven sabbaths of years. This is where the numerical increments of sevens comes in.
“And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years.”
We have – “seven sabbaths of years unto the people, seven times seven years; and the space of the seventh Sabbath of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years”.
Then we come to another very important identification of what the numerical progression of the Levitical Code in its completion means.
v9: “Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the Day of Atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof; it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man untohis possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family. A jubilee shall that fiftieth year be unto you:”
The Levitical codes of Sabbath Seasons
Correlating Daniel 9:24-27 to Leviticus 25:1-11:
In leviticus it sets forth the one Shavuim week of the weeks of multiple of years, one year of rest for the land after a 6 years period.
This is the 7 years of sabbaths seasons to the land and the Lord.
Vs 8 – thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years;
the 7 times 7 years
One unique sabbath year of rest for the land and beasts and the Lord a jubilee year of rest and returning of the laborers, maids, servants, slaves, return to their families and lands returned to its owners. this makes up 360 sabbath days for this jubilee.
The one final week in Daniel 9
Breaking the bread of Scripture:
First I would like to mention that Daniel was a Jew who knew Jewish customs and laws and levitical code. He also knew about this breakdown, but didn’t fully understand the events about to take place.
The seventh week requires a different multiplier then the 69 weeks, previously studied.
This final week uses a different conversion by using a different multiplier(s) from the 69 weeks, the Jubilee week has 360 sabbath days. 360 is the multiplier for the 70th week.
So in taking the prophetic years 360 by 7 multiplier comes to 2520 years.
We will take the 2520 prophetic years by .9857 solar year conversion will come to a rounded 2484 years.
We will take Cyrus Decree of 536bc which originally started the temple reconstruction and has to do with the temple and a different prophetic timeline following the progressions of the Sabbath years.
We add the 2484 solar years to the starting point of the decree of Cyrus 536bc we come to 1948AD.
Does this Date appear to be familiar? It should, this is the year that the Holy Land was returned to it’s people as a New Nation of Israel.
This was a sabbath jubilee year where all property returns to its original owner and even the slaves, servants, hired hands returns to their families. Keep in mind this was the Jewish peoples lot in history all the way back to Babylonian exile.
Now where does Daniel 9:27 come into the picture?
and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease?
Keep in mind that this use of midst is somewhere around the middle of the timeline.
Now take the 2484 years and half it we come to 706AD.
Not everyone will know this part of the timeline unless they knew the history of the Temple Mount.
What lead up to 706bc? When we talk about the abominations of desolations that defiles the temple mound and brings the offerings and sacrifices to a halt. What could it be?
We need to ask ourselves, what sits on the temple mound today. Every one will say, “the dome of the rock”. That is correct but the dome of the rock is part of a different timeline. We will go over that later. What else sits to the borders of the Temple Mount?
v27 – for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate.
The plural of abominations should be a clue.
There is something else sitting on the mount.
The overspreading, off to the side of, or the wing of (literal translation), or the boarder of, depending on what translation we use. We will find this standing structure on the wing of the temple mound is what is called al-Aqsa Mosque. It’s completion was 706AD.
Some will argue the year however I have references that make it 706AD, give or take a year. By the way, “midst” does mean somewhere around the middle.
Now we have the abominations of desolation reference mentioned in Daniel 9:27.
Let me take you to another parallel passage about this event:
The Great Tribulation (Mark 13:14-28; Luke 21:20-24)
Now in breaking down this passage in Matthew, we will find:
V14 – abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,
V19 – For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
The was going to be a great tribulation event that will happen that will take place in Jerusalem, there will be none like it from that point on. The aforementioned event will take place, and there is going be no other event in Jerusalem like afterwards. We will now understand that what ever Jerusalem may go through in this age will not compare to what will happen in the before mentioned age.
V21&22 – Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
In verse 22 states that Christs and prophets plural, however this is singular. There for shall arise a false christ and false prophet.
V24-27 – But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
Vs 24 – after that tribulation – we see in the king James that the return of Christ was to return in the clouds with is angels or messengers to gather his elect. After, did he say? The correct language should actually state in the midst. We will see the following signs prior to his return.
These are in Jesus’s own words.
Now that we understand the abomination of desolation standing in part of the holy place.
We now understand that the Great Tribulation isn’t somewhere in the future but we have been experiencing it even up to this day. However there will be no greater that the event we will talk about in the next post study.
He warns us not to pay any mind at every claimed coming of his return. This sounds true even in our most recent history. He gave certain signs of His coming. He also reference a false christ and prophet, and not to be deceived by him, all in the same context of this message. By the way in the original text this is singular christ and singular prophet, and not the plural.
In verse 29 states that after this tribulation, then we are to look for the mentioned signs of His return. Then it goes into the parables that associates the signs of the previous passage. For those of the pre-tribbers persuasion this doesn’t stand up to what Jesus was saying. The signs of his return will be in the midst or after the tribulation.
I always had a question mark “?” concerning the pre or post teaching until I read this more closely, you can also look at it as the mid-trib. Somehow it didn’t feel morally correct to let His church go through the hardships of persecution if there was going to be a tribulation to come in the future, however with this light shined on scripture, we have been going through it for some time. When the word talks about the beast, this is only for the region in which the prophecy’s were written and making reference to, Jerusalem. Even though this is felt worldwide. I believe the Lord of Heaven has kept His JerUSAlem in the palm of his hand, if this wasn’t so, we would be in a much worse place.
Now is this abomination standing in the holy place a man, beast or a thing? Some will make reference to this as the Antichrist standing in the holy of holies claiming to be Christ. I call the Dome of the Rock a shrine to the antichrist spirit. I will have more to say on this later.
In the context of Jesus’s reference to Daniel’s passage he talks about the tribulation to come, he also was making reference in the same passage that a false christ and prophet that will come, and a war. I view this as the other prince that will defile the temple mound and make war to claim Jerusalem for this false christ or prophet in the name of a false god and religion. By the way, this false prophet has already made the so claimed appearance on the temple mound in previous history and produced some claimed miracles. Who can this be? We can find this false prophet in many references in history on the internet. He’s healed the sick, caused food to multiply, split the moon in half, claimed he descended and re-ascended on the Temple Mount and Mecca. This is why this beast prince has it’s sights on this holy temple mound and Mecca, entering and exiting from the site in a supposed miraculous claim. He left Mecca to go to Jerusalem and returned in a unrealistic amount of time. Sounds like the prince of darkness counterfeit’s our Christ.
This false christ makes blasphemies against the one True Christ, and the Holy Spirit stating that Jesus is not the Son of God and the Holy Spirit isn’t real. This is scribed on one of the standing abomination of desolation on the Temple Mount.
I will be getting into this on my next post.
The ceasing of offerings and sacrifices in Jerusalem AD.